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<blockquote data-quote="LifebaneSoulshadow" data-source="post: 1558329" data-attributes="member: 7475"><p>Exactly....</p><p></p><p>It seems it is an ability and PrC that sees a lot of abuse by people I see play it. Unless it's noon, there is always some kind of shadow and I've heard players claim that they can hide in plain sight. </p><p></p><p>And the way it's written would support that idea (any sort of shadow within 10')</p><p></p><p>Balance wise and when I think of it in terms of physics it doesnt make sense. Maybe part of my hard time with HIPS and hide skill in general is the time I spent in active duty military service. I was trained and very skilled at stepping into a forest and literally disappearing. However if there are no shadows to hide in....or they are not dark enough to actually conceal, anyone looking about 'will' see you. (or vegetation of some kind)</p><p></p><p>I've seen players start out in shadows, hide and then say they creep up to the bad guy. Well often times there is a light source or sources and little to no shadows. Yet with HIPS or even regular hide they claim they can creep up right on top of the person to deliver a sneak attack. </p><p></p><p>It seems often the people I see play Shadowdancer and even regular 'hide', that it is some mystical skill that allows them to turn invisible, run around with little or no cover/concealment and then get right up on top of people.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="LifebaneSoulshadow, post: 1558329, member: 7475"] Exactly.... It seems it is an ability and PrC that sees a lot of abuse by people I see play it. Unless it's noon, there is always some kind of shadow and I've heard players claim that they can hide in plain sight. And the way it's written would support that idea (any sort of shadow within 10') Balance wise and when I think of it in terms of physics it doesnt make sense. Maybe part of my hard time with HIPS and hide skill in general is the time I spent in active duty military service. I was trained and very skilled at stepping into a forest and literally disappearing. However if there are no shadows to hide in....or they are not dark enough to actually conceal, anyone looking about 'will' see you. (or vegetation of some kind) I've seen players start out in shadows, hide and then say they creep up to the bad guy. Well often times there is a light source or sources and little to no shadows. Yet with HIPS or even regular hide they claim they can creep up right on top of the person to deliver a sneak attack. It seems often the people I see play Shadowdancer and even regular 'hide', that it is some mystical skill that allows them to turn invisible, run around with little or no cover/concealment and then get right up on top of people. [/QUOTE]
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