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Message: <blockquote data-quote="LifebaneSoulshadow" data-source="post: 1560990" data-attributes="member: 7475">Yes there are the hide penalties for moving to the shadows.  However, I've seen a player use the wording of HIPS to avoid moving anywhere.Since they can HIPS if within 10' of any sort of shadow (I think is how HIPS is worded, dont have it in front of me atm), they feel that they dont actually need to move to the shadow.  They just 'invis'/HIPS right where they are.Then begs the question if they do need to move to the shadow to HIPS, take a -5 penalty for doing so, what size of shadow/darkness of shadow is needed?Can it be the shadow from the legs of a small chair?Then more weirdness with the fact that unless a room is BRIGHTLY lit, or when outside of anything before or after noon, there is some sort of shadow, somewhere.  Is this basically an ability like one earlier poster mentioned that is basically giving the character 'invisibility-like' since it's a supernatural ability and be done with it?  If so, it seems awfully powerful.Lifebane Soulshadow *</blockquote>