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<blockquote data-quote="Li Shenron" data-source="post: 1773321" data-attributes="member: 1465">Note that in 3ed Hide is rather a way to get out of sight rather than to remain hidden.I think that he can benefit from hiding (if the party fails the spot checks, obviously) as long as he is within darkness or shadowy area, once he enters the lit area around the party he's no longer hidden.IMHO the best that the half-orc can get is to catch the party by surprise. This is not very much however because (1) the surprise round is not a full round, and (2) if he chooses to charge he gets a -20 on the hide check.Two possible ways I could choose to handle this situation:a) have the assassin move out of the dark slowly (until he's only in shadows), giving the party a new spot check; if they don't notice him, he can get as close as 20ft or something more, however enough to either partial-charge or sneak attack from range in the surprise round; if they notice him, he does the same but the ones who are not surprise also play the surprise round (roll initiative)b) have the assassin try to charge straight into the party (somewhat the start of the charge is before the surprise round); same spot check once he's visible but -20 to hide</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Li Shenron, post: 1773321, member: 1465"] Note that in 3ed Hide is rather a way to get out of sight rather than to remain hidden. I think that he can benefit from hiding (if the party fails the spot checks, obviously) as long as he is within darkness or shadowy area, once he enters the lit area around the party he's no longer hidden. IMHO the best that the half-orc can get is to catch the party by surprise. This is not very much however because (1) the surprise round is not a full round, and (2) if he chooses to charge he gets a -20 on the hide check. Two possible ways I could choose to handle this situation: a) have the assassin move out of the dark slowly (until he's only in shadows), giving the party a new spot check; if they don't notice him, he can get as close as 20ft or something more, however enough to either partial-charge or sneak attack from range in the surprise round; if they notice him, he does the same but the ones who are not surprise also play the surprise round (roll initiative) b) have the assassin try to charge straight into the party (somewhat the start of the charge is before the surprise round); same spot check once he's visible but -20 to hide [/QUOTE]

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