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<blockquote data-quote="Jarrod" data-source="post: 1773871" data-attributes="member: 13253">From the SRD:You need cover or concealment in order to attempt a Hide check. Total cover or total concealment usually (but not always; see Special, below) obviates the need for a Hide check, since nothing can see you anyway.That indicates that you need cover or concealment to hide, so that you can't hide in a corridor filled with torchlight. However, also from the SRD:Your Hide check is opposed by the Spot check of anyone who might see you.I've often found that &quot;common sense&quot; screws over the rogues. &quot;You can't hide, you're in the middle of a field&quot;. Well, let me tell you... it is entirely possible to hide in an open field. Wear camoflage clothing, blend in well, don't move... it is difficult, but doable. And that's what the Hide skill is for.I'm going to disagree with everyone else here. My ruling would be that the orc is hidden (roll Hide), and that Hide roll is opposed by the Spot check of everyone in the party that could see him. If someone spots him, then they do. If not, then they _don't_. Corridor, torchlight, whatever. If he is that good at hiding, he can sneak right up to the cleric and tap him on the shoulder.It's been done. To me. Yeah, the guy was good; this is fantasy, and the hiders can be _better_.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Jarrod, post: 1773871, member: 13253"] From the SRD: You need cover or concealment in order to attempt a Hide check. Total cover or total concealment usually (but not always; see Special, below) obviates the need for a Hide check, since nothing can see you anyway. That indicates that you need cover or concealment to hide, so that you can't hide in a corridor filled with torchlight. However, also from the SRD: Your Hide check is opposed by the Spot check of anyone who might see you. I've often found that "common sense" screws over the rogues. "You can't hide, you're in the middle of a field". Well, let me tell you... it is entirely possible to hide in an open field. Wear camoflage clothing, blend in well, don't move... it is difficult, but doable. And that's what the Hide skill is for. I'm going to disagree with everyone else here. My ruling would be that the orc is hidden (roll Hide), and that Hide roll is opposed by the Spot check of everyone in the party that could see him. If someone spots him, then they do. If not, then they _don't_. Corridor, torchlight, whatever. If he is that good at hiding, he can sneak right up to the cleric and tap him on the shoulder. It's been done. To me. Yeah, the guy was good; this is fantasy, and the hiders can be _better_. [/QUOTE]

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