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Message: <blockquote data-quote="clearstream" data-source="post: 7528932" data-attributes="member: 71699">Given you need to be unseen to take a Hide action, I think this ends up being incorrect. What happens is that you are unseen (but your location is knowable) and then you can make a check to become hidden (your location becomes unknown).Indeed, the RAW on invisibility acts to demonstrate the veracity of the above. You are unseen - that alone is sufficient to try and hide. If you hide, your position becomes unknown.Indeed, and if you are not unseen, or become not unseen such as when you pop up to fire from a direction a foe is conscious of, you can't get advantage when you make your attack. At least, not from being unseen. That is because while being unseen is a mechanical prereq. for hiding, being hidden doesn't make you unseen. Crawford suggests that firing a ranged weapon might be done while maintaining unseen... possibly supposing that you can pop-up to fire at a moment when you are not observed.Sure, each DM should do what they want. However, we can as a community work out effective methods that are fair, robust in a wide variety of situations, and produce a reasonable narrative. And then we can share them!</blockquote>