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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ginnel" data-source="post: 4228547" data-attributes="member: 66058">Ok theres been a few constructive points made and some less constructive.I think its great threads like this can be made for a DM or player to ask something they are thinking about and get thoughts and opinions they wouldn't have necessarily had themselves.When your talking to a player you may well misunderstand their concept and they would be unhappy with what they are playing. okies fair point Another reason I think it would be wouldn't be workable is that the characters unless they come from a backward village would have heard rumours/seen what other races could do and their general attributes (more lithe or more intelligent for example), so they would need to see the races sections before play started anyway, the classes section I think the same reason would apply, asking the players to try and maybe not look at the powers available for other classes hmm but then again that would restrict the multi classing inspirations available.Hmm I think the middle ground view of ask for initial concept would be nice but if they look through the PHB and go wow I wanna play that, well DM's should say yes rather than no in the majority of cases. But yeah asking the players if they are ok with any of these potenial ways of creation and talking to them first would be a definite as well.in the end i think its a interesting idea but letting the players go through the book to get the picture for a character concept won't rid the game of the initial mystery unless they go through memorising absolutely every power, and any sense of mystery will be diluted as the party become more familiar which each other anyway (though maybe new powers every few levels would keep this alive) This thought has now led me on to a new question though how do you visualise powers working especially martial ones but thats for another thread.</blockquote>

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