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Message: <blockquote data-quote="N'raac" data-source="post: 6369886" data-attributes="member: 6681948">Identical would also remove point buy - different players allocate their points differently, and the same player may allocate differently for different characters.  But we still want "random" - or so the choice to roll the dice seems to indicate.  We have established a range of 3 - 18, and also that we want it skewed more to higher rolls than to lower rolls.  I find it outright illogical to roll dice for stats and then complain that the use of a random chance methodology generates results which are random, so I disagree with your conclusion that there is nothing outright illogical in the GM complaining that a choice of a random method of generating numbers carries random results.  Think of it this way - will he stop the game at some point and require some change be made because Player #3 has rolled an excessive number of critical hits, or his hit points reflect above average results, or perhaps he rolled max damage 3 times in a row, so he is not allowed to roll max damage again?Not setting the parameters up front is, to me, "wrongity-wrong".  I am curious whether his response would have been similar had the player's luck skewed the other way and he ended up with stats considerably lower than the rest of the players (again, a chance we take when rolling the dice).  Perhaps he would, but there is no way to know.  From the OP's comments that the other players seemed excited that they got decent stats, it sounds like there have been past occasions where they were less fortunate, and were stuck with those "unlucky" stats.To me, by deciding "we will roll stats using this method", the group accepted the possibility someone would roll exceptionally well, or exceptionally poorly, with the result likely being a disparity in starting character bonuses.  4d6, drop the lowest, in no way guarantees "at least one terrible score and only 1  or 2 at a +2 mod or more", nor do I perceive the 8's noted as being "terrible scores".  "Woe is me, I take a -1 penalty on a dump stat."  One thing for random rolls and arrays - I see a lot more odd numbers using those methods!  Although it's nice to have an odd number once every four levels or so...</blockquote>

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