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High DPR Paladin-Rogue-Bard Will it work?
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<blockquote data-quote="jgsugden" data-source="post: 9252625" data-attributes="member: 2629"><p>If you like the idea, then it is good. D&D in 5E is balanced enough that you kind of need to try to go wrong. The idea of the stealth paladin is a fun one - with the Avenger from 4E as a good example.</p><p></p><p>From an efficiency standpoint, your biggest 'hole' in your game is the reliance on a single attack per round. Everyone gets an unlucky streak, and if you miss on three attacks in a row, that can be three rounds in a row that you effectively do nothing other than absorb damage. You're also capping out at +2d6 sneak attack damage which makes the sneak attack damage minimally meaningful. You can get an average of +7 damage from a lot of sources - is the rogue really that essential to the build? </p><p></p><p>If you go with your build, I'd consider going with 2 separate one handed dex weapons at low level to increase the chances of getting a hit to deliver that sneak attack. You don't need to invest feats or anything ... just use the two weapons like most rogues do. </p><p></p><p>Personally, I would drop the rogue and go pure dex based vengeance paladin to level 6. I'd give them a Criminal or Hermit background to get the skills for a dex build.</p><p></p><p>Level 1: 2d6+3 (2 light dex weapons) = 10</p><p>Level 2: 2d6+2d4+3 (add divine favor) = 15</p><p>Level 3 and 4: 4d6+3 (divine favor become hunter's mark) = 17</p><p>Level 5: 6d6+6 (multiattack) = 27</p><p>Level 6: Can you pass on those charisma bonus to all saves, really?</p><p></p><p>From here you could add the 1 level of Hexblade for Charisma based attacks, and then either go with a bard or sorcerer build on top.</p><p> </p><p>Note that this build also 'strengthens' if you happen to find a strength enhancing item more than your original build due to the multiattack.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="jgsugden, post: 9252625, member: 2629"] If you like the idea, then it is good. D&D in 5E is balanced enough that you kind of need to try to go wrong. The idea of the stealth paladin is a fun one - with the Avenger from 4E as a good example. From an efficiency standpoint, your biggest 'hole' in your game is the reliance on a single attack per round. Everyone gets an unlucky streak, and if you miss on three attacks in a row, that can be three rounds in a row that you effectively do nothing other than absorb damage. You're also capping out at +2d6 sneak attack damage which makes the sneak attack damage minimally meaningful. You can get an average of +7 damage from a lot of sources - is the rogue really that essential to the build? If you go with your build, I'd consider going with 2 separate one handed dex weapons at low level to increase the chances of getting a hit to deliver that sneak attack. You don't need to invest feats or anything ... just use the two weapons like most rogues do. Personally, I would drop the rogue and go pure dex based vengeance paladin to level 6. I'd give them a Criminal or Hermit background to get the skills for a dex build. Level 1: 2d6+3 (2 light dex weapons) = 10 Level 2: 2d6+2d4+3 (add divine favor) = 15 Level 3 and 4: 4d6+3 (divine favor become hunter's mark) = 17 Level 5: 6d6+6 (multiattack) = 27 Level 6: Can you pass on those charisma bonus to all saves, really? From here you could add the 1 level of Hexblade for Charisma based attacks, and then either go with a bard or sorcerer build on top. Note that this build also 'strengthens' if you happen to find a strength enhancing item more than your original build due to the multiattack. [/QUOTE]
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