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<blockquote data-quote="theNater" data-source="post: 4373660" data-attributes="member: 62560"><p>I wanted to look at this. For example purposes, I'll use a 30th level warlock(as a striker with "standardized" damage, rather than weapon damage) who is focusing on damage. Going infernal pact, life-stealer paragon path, eternal seeker epic destiny(but still using only warlock powers). A 16 con, 14 int and 13 cha at level 1, boosting con every chance and alternating between int and cha ends up with 24 con(+7), 19 int(+4), and 18 cha(+4). Use a +6 Rod of Reaving. Encounter and at-will powers only. Assume a monster with 280 hit points(1/5 of red dragon's 1400). Note that average curse damage is 10.5. Calculations are in the spoiler block.</p><p>[sblock]Round 1: Curse for 6 damage. Then Hellfire Curse. Average on 5d10 is 27.5, so average damage for a hit is 27.5+10.5+7+4+6=55. Divide in half for 50% chance to hit, then add the 6 guaranteed, and we get 33.5 for the first round.</p><p></p><p>Round 2: Spiteful Darts, average on 4d8 is 18, so 18+10.5+7+6=41.5, halved for 20.75.</p><p></p><p>Round 3: Warlock's Bargain, average on 3d10 is 16.5, so 16.5+10.5+7+15+6=55, halved for 27.5.</p><p></p><p>Round 4: Soul Scorch, average on 3d8 is 13.5, so 13.5+10.5+7+6=37, halved for 18.5.</p><p></p><p>Subsequent rounds: Eldritch Bolt, average on 2d10 is 11, 11+10.5+7+6=34.5, so average 14.25 per round with it.</p><p></p><p>280-33.5-20.75-27.5-18.5=179.75. 179.75/14.25 is about 12.6. So 12 or 13 rounds of using at-wills, 16 to 17 rounds total.</p><p></p><p>Note that a critical with Eldritch Bolt does an average of 20+18+7+6+27(average for 6d8)=78 damage, which is over 5 rounds worth of damage. The chance of critting at least once in 10 rounds is about 40%, and a successful crit makes the combat about 10-12 rounds long, or shorter if the crit occured with a stronger power.[/sblock]</p><p>For a warlock attacking a single creature and expending no daily resources, it takes 10-17 rounds to defeat it. There are any number of things the warlock can do to speed that up(Bracers of the Perfect Shot, for example, can reasonably trim two rounds from that, while an action point provides eternal seekers with two bonus actions).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="theNater, post: 4373660, member: 62560"] I wanted to look at this. For example purposes, I'll use a 30th level warlock(as a striker with "standardized" damage, rather than weapon damage) who is focusing on damage. Going infernal pact, life-stealer paragon path, eternal seeker epic destiny(but still using only warlock powers). A 16 con, 14 int and 13 cha at level 1, boosting con every chance and alternating between int and cha ends up with 24 con(+7), 19 int(+4), and 18 cha(+4). Use a +6 Rod of Reaving. Encounter and at-will powers only. Assume a monster with 280 hit points(1/5 of red dragon's 1400). Note that average curse damage is 10.5. Calculations are in the spoiler block. [sblock]Round 1: Curse for 6 damage. Then Hellfire Curse. Average on 5d10 is 27.5, so average damage for a hit is 27.5+10.5+7+4+6=55. Divide in half for 50% chance to hit, then add the 6 guaranteed, and we get 33.5 for the first round. Round 2: Spiteful Darts, average on 4d8 is 18, so 18+10.5+7+6=41.5, halved for 20.75. Round 3: Warlock's Bargain, average on 3d10 is 16.5, so 16.5+10.5+7+15+6=55, halved for 27.5. Round 4: Soul Scorch, average on 3d8 is 13.5, so 13.5+10.5+7+6=37, halved for 18.5. Subsequent rounds: Eldritch Bolt, average on 2d10 is 11, 11+10.5+7+6=34.5, so average 14.25 per round with it. 280-33.5-20.75-27.5-18.5=179.75. 179.75/14.25 is about 12.6. So 12 or 13 rounds of using at-wills, 16 to 17 rounds total. Note that a critical with Eldritch Bolt does an average of 20+18+7+6+27(average for 6d8)=78 damage, which is over 5 rounds worth of damage. The chance of critting at least once in 10 rounds is about 40%, and a successful crit makes the combat about 10-12 rounds long, or shorter if the crit occured with a stronger power.[/sblock] For a warlock attacking a single creature and expending no daily resources, it takes 10-17 rounds to defeat it. There are any number of things the warlock can do to speed that up(Bracers of the Perfect Shot, for example, can reasonably trim two rounds from that, while an action point provides eternal seekers with two bonus actions). [/QUOTE]
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