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<blockquote data-quote="Falling Icicle" data-source="post: 4376822" data-attributes="member: 17077"><p>If a fight takes 20 rounds, you can assume the player probably makes 20 attacks, 21 if he spends an action point. So typically, even in such an extremely long encounter, the odds are the player will only crit once. If you assume there are 6 PCs, that's 6 crits typically that will occur in such an encounter. And 20 rounds is a pretty long encounter.</p><p></p><p>You also have to keep in mind that the value of a crit varies considerably depending on whether it was an at-will, encounter or daily attack that crit. Players only get about 10 total encounter and daily attack powers, so the odds are slim, even if they use every single encounter and daily they have in a fight, that one of those is going to crit. It's much more likely that an at-will power will crit, which has a much less significant effect. </p><p></p><p>But even being very generous and assuming that it is the Wizard's meteor swarm that happens to crit, and not a weaker power, you're only looking at gaining another 40 points of damage or so (MS's avg damage is 43, a crit does 63 damage plus whatever bonus the implement gives to crits, usually +6d6, for a typcial critical damage of 84. That's 41 extra damage over a typical MS hit. Divided up among the 20 rounds of the fight, that translates to only 2 extra damage per round. As I said, crits are, on average, statistically insignificant. And again, this is assuming MS crits, and not a weaker spell!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Falling Icicle, post: 4376822, member: 17077"] If a fight takes 20 rounds, you can assume the player probably makes 20 attacks, 21 if he spends an action point. So typically, even in such an extremely long encounter, the odds are the player will only crit once. If you assume there are 6 PCs, that's 6 crits typically that will occur in such an encounter. And 20 rounds is a pretty long encounter. You also have to keep in mind that the value of a crit varies considerably depending on whether it was an at-will, encounter or daily attack that crit. Players only get about 10 total encounter and daily attack powers, so the odds are slim, even if they use every single encounter and daily they have in a fight, that one of those is going to crit. It's much more likely that an at-will power will crit, which has a much less significant effect. But even being very generous and assuming that it is the Wizard's meteor swarm that happens to crit, and not a weaker power, you're only looking at gaining another 40 points of damage or so (MS's avg damage is 43, a crit does 63 damage plus whatever bonus the implement gives to crits, usually +6d6, for a typcial critical damage of 84. That's 41 extra damage over a typical MS hit. Divided up among the 20 rounds of the fight, that translates to only 2 extra damage per round. As I said, crits are, on average, statistically insignificant. And again, this is assuming MS crits, and not a weaker spell! [/QUOTE]
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