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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Zardnaar" data-source="post: 9885170" data-attributes="member: 6716779">Not really theres 3 things you can do. You solution isn't the one true path. 1. Give every class like dailies like you suggest. 2. Remove dailies from all classes. Everything i at will or at will and encounter.  Both require a rewrite. 3. Playstyle/DM issue. Theres done very good in gane reasons not to 5MWD. Reinforcement snd fortifying things for starters. Or flee and take loot. Change the playstyle.  Your solution isnt the only one.  Thats assuming the 5MWD is actually an issue. I suspect a lot of newbies are doing this due to inexperienced DMs, video game influence and static adventure design.  If peopke are having fun ping it so be it. Its not how I do it but I"m not claiming my ways the one true way either.  My way does fix it though. PCs sod off for 8 hours any serving creatures with intelligence of 10 or higher could just flee taking loo with them. Read out what they fled with and PCs missed.   Or the monsters attack at night. If they have dispel magic available  leomunds secure bunker wont save them.  Ir they reinforce and make everything tougher for the PCs. Relocate the entire dungeon to the first few rooms and hit them hard.   Basic tactics and strategy. A 5MWD if is a problem is playstyke issue. Think about D-Day gove the Germans 8+ hours to respond  for free. Happened at ANZAC Galipoli landing as well. That was a two hour head start iirc on one of the beaches. Foes took high ground and dug in.  If your players are taking the piss abusing 5MWD do it back.  Thats the counter to it its basically players metagaming and DMs who cant figure it out or are gappy to roll with it. May not be an issue and easily countered. More to the point it's exactly what the OP is asking. Consequences in game is the counter. . 3 or 4 deadly encounters RAW the players will start struggling depending on level.  2 low encounters technically count as a high its more likec3 as youre crushing them piecemeal.  Mediums a bit harder. Theyre about 2-1 or 1.5-1 medium/high.   Thats the counter to 5MWD and 3-4 high encounters depending on terrain. If you keep hitting them they'll need to short rest to heal with hit dice.  Another way is hit them harder over and over. Once they're more or less depleted throw a medium encounter at them. If they're really depleted throw an low encounter at them.  How many to reach that point depends on level, composition, monsters used etc. Its somewhere between 3 and 10 encounters.  WotC won't be rewriting anything soon. So my ways the way forward by default  or play something else. OP specifically asked about changing the playstyle. They described 5MWD (1 set piece encounter) Think I was the first and only one to answer OP using what the actual rules say. Think I'm the only one here who's actually used said rules from the sounds of it. So I answered the question you bitch and moaned, didn't help and claimed one true way lol. Typical ENworld tbh its fairly useless here lately. OP up voted my suggestion.  Anything practical to add or just declare yourself right?</blockquote>

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