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Message: <blockquote data-quote="theNater" data-source="post: 4315450" data-attributes="member: 62560">Couple of things that make this less horrible.The int of 20 at start becomes an int of 28 by level 28, which is +9, rather than +8.The Atropal has a 42 AC, 42 fort, 37 ref, and 40 will.With a +29 to hit, your character has a 50% chance to hit will(11+).  Ref is a 65% chance to hit(8+), fort is a 40%(13+).  Attacks that target AC are assumed to have a weapon proficiency bonus behind them, say it's +2 and you're at a 50% to hit AC.  Targeting its weakness gives you better than 50%, targeting its strength gives you worse than 50%, and targeting its middling scores gives you exactly 50%.  This seems quite reasonable to me.Assuming the character starts with a 16 int, rather than a 20, he's got a 55% chance to hit reflex, a 40% chance to hit will and AC, and a 30% chance to hit fort.  In this case, it is significantly more important to target the critter's weaknesses, rather than its strengths.  But I think you're still in pretty good shape.According to the DMG, when you make a monster into an elite, its defenses are increased.  Given that the Atropal is an elite monster, I think your chance to hit is right where it should be.My theory is that monster defenses are designed around the assumption that the PC's started with a 16 in their attack stat and increased it every time they got a chance.  This is supported by the fact that the standard array tops out at 16 and is apparently intended to be viable for all race/class combinations, even those that do not provide bonuses to the attack stat.</blockquote>

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