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<blockquote data-quote="The Crimson Binome" data-source="post: 7147921" data-attributes="member: 6775031">You can definitely get a lot of bodies onto the field, and due to the way scaling works under Bounded Accuracy, they won't die very easily. They also can't really do anything terribly useful.I mean, your squad of thirty-two summoned snakes might be able to defeat a hundred orcs. Are you really going to be fighting a hundred orcs? Is this worth spending your highest-level spell slot? If you are, then great, that's your time to shine - against monsters that pose no threat to you.More likely, by the time you're high enough level for this to be an option, the only things you'll need to worry about are things that your summons are useless against. Snakes are worthless against big dragons, for example, or anything else that can fly. They can't hurt empyreans at all, and each hit only does ~3 damage to an elemental. Against things that they can hit, you're going to run into the space limitation as they surround it.And the trade-off for having this moderately-durable army that lasts for an entire hour (which is effectively one encounter, because you aren't going to find enemy armies to fight within an hour of travel from each other), and which doesn't vanish instantly when you take damage (unless that damage also stuns you or makes you fall unconscious), is that you can't cast Fly on the fighter or use any of the other concentration spells that might actually help you against the monsters you would want to fight at that level. It essentially amounts to a neat party trick that might save you once, if circumstances are favorable.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="The Crimson Binome, post: 7147921, member: 6775031"] You can definitely get a lot of bodies onto the field, and due to the way scaling works under Bounded Accuracy, they won't die very easily. They also can't really [I]do[/I] anything terribly useful. I mean, your squad of thirty-two summoned snakes might be able to defeat a hundred orcs. Are you [I]really[/I] going to be fighting a hundred orcs? Is this worth spending your highest-level spell slot? If you are, then great, that's your time to shine - against monsters that pose no threat to you. More likely, by the time you're high enough level for this to be an option, the only things you'll need to worry about are things that your summons are useless against. Snakes are worthless against big dragons, for example, or anything else that can fly. They can't hurt empyreans at all, and each hit only does ~3 damage to an elemental. Against things that they [I]can[/I] hit, you're going to run into the space limitation as they surround it. And the trade-off for having this moderately-durable army that lasts for an entire hour (which is effectively one encounter, because you aren't going to find enemy armies to fight within an hour of travel from each other), and which doesn't vanish instantly when you take damage (unless that damage also stuns you or makes you fall unconscious), is that you can't cast Fly on the fighter or use any of the other concentration spells that might [I]actually[/I] help you against the monsters you would want to fight at that level. It essentially amounts to a neat party trick that might save you once, if circumstances are favorable. [/QUOTE]

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