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High Level Fighter Vs. High Level Barbarian
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<blockquote data-quote="Elder-Basilisk" data-source="post: 1366623" data-attributes="member: 3146"><p>That rather depends upon whether the barbarian is designed to sunder or disarm. Improved Disarm requires combat expertise--which many barbarians will avoid since it can't be used while raging--which requires a 13 int--something most barbarians don't have. Improved Sunder requires only power attack so it's more likely. However, it's hardly a done deal and every round spend trying to sunder the fighter's weapon is a round spent not damaging the fighter. The barbarian can only afford to spend a few rounds not damaging the fighter or his rage is likely to run out on him.</p><p></p><p>BTW, for a melee fighter vs barbarian, I'd suggest a magical adamantine tower shield and an adamantine bastard sword. The fighter could use the normal Combat Expertise for five points (+5 mithral fullplate for +13 armor, 16 modified dex for +3 dex, +5 ring of protection for +5 deflection, +5 amulet of natural armor for +5 natural armor, Boots of Speed for +1 haste, Dodge for +1 dodge, +5 adamantine tower shield for +9 shield, and to 5 points of combat expertise yield an AC between 47 and 52--slap fortification on the armor to avoid a barbarian victory through a lucky crit). With a hardness of 30, and quite a few hit points, the shield and armor should be pretty resilient vs. sunders; with a locked gauntlet, the fighter is pretty well set vs. disarms, and with only 5 points of expertise, he's not that far behind the barbarian in terms of attack bonus anyway.</p><p></p><p>An alternate anti barbarian fighter might have improved unarmed strike, improved grapple, and weapon focus and greater weapon focus and specialization: grapple and armor spikes. I'm not certain that he could push his grapple check high enough to reliably beat the barbarian but he'd stand a very good chance of neutralizing the barbarian's offensive power for the duration of the barbarian's rage. And after that, the barbarian would be toast.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Elder-Basilisk, post: 1366623, member: 3146"] That rather depends upon whether the barbarian is designed to sunder or disarm. Improved Disarm requires combat expertise--which many barbarians will avoid since it can't be used while raging--which requires a 13 int--something most barbarians don't have. Improved Sunder requires only power attack so it's more likely. However, it's hardly a done deal and every round spend trying to sunder the fighter's weapon is a round spent not damaging the fighter. The barbarian can only afford to spend a few rounds not damaging the fighter or his rage is likely to run out on him. BTW, for a melee fighter vs barbarian, I'd suggest a magical adamantine tower shield and an adamantine bastard sword. The fighter could use the normal Combat Expertise for five points (+5 mithral fullplate for +13 armor, 16 modified dex for +3 dex, +5 ring of protection for +5 deflection, +5 amulet of natural armor for +5 natural armor, Boots of Speed for +1 haste, Dodge for +1 dodge, +5 adamantine tower shield for +9 shield, and to 5 points of combat expertise yield an AC between 47 and 52--slap fortification on the armor to avoid a barbarian victory through a lucky crit). With a hardness of 30, and quite a few hit points, the shield and armor should be pretty resilient vs. sunders; with a locked gauntlet, the fighter is pretty well set vs. disarms, and with only 5 points of expertise, he's not that far behind the barbarian in terms of attack bonus anyway. An alternate anti barbarian fighter might have improved unarmed strike, improved grapple, and weapon focus and greater weapon focus and specialization: grapple and armor spikes. I'm not certain that he could push his grapple check high enough to reliably beat the barbarian but he'd stand a very good chance of neutralizing the barbarian's offensive power for the duration of the barbarian's rage. And after that, the barbarian would be toast. [/QUOTE]
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