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<blockquote data-quote="DracoSuave" data-source="post: 4613892" data-attributes="member: 71571">Well, one, vampires have tons of abilities, some of which are from their vampireness, and some are from their class.&nbsp; It being a template and all.But for me, here's the reason why less is more.Look at kobolds.In 3e they can in one variety, add a class if you like, but a lot didn't bother, because it was work.&nbsp; Compare that to 4e kobolds.&nbsp; GOLLY DAMN they have a -society- of kobolds in there, each with a purpose and skillset that make kobold with spear different then kobold with sling.&nbsp; Kobolds have an identity, and yet have varience.&nbsp; Pages of material that would be wasted on 'use Rope' and 'This guy has the spell contact other plan' are instead used to flesh out monster races and make them into -actual races-.You might be upset that the vampire's not got a million things that never occur in battle, but I'll trade that in for the fact that he's got multiple types of minions for different purposes.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="DracoSuave, post: 4613892, member: 71571"] Well, one, vampires have tons of abilities, some of which are from their vampireness, and some are from their class. It being a template and all. But for me, here's the reason why less is more. Look at kobolds. In 3e they can in one variety, add a class if you like, but a lot didn't bother, because it was work. Compare that to 4e kobolds. GOLLY DAMN they have a -society- of kobolds in there, each with a purpose and skillset that make kobold with spear different then kobold with sling. Kobolds have an identity, and yet have varience. Pages of material that would be wasted on 'use Rope' and 'This guy has the spell contact other plan' are instead used to flesh out monster races and make them into -actual races-. You might be upset that the vampire's not got a million things that never occur in battle, but I'll trade that in for the fact that he's got multiple types of minions for different purposes. [/QUOTE]

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