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<blockquote data-quote="FormerlyHemlock" data-source="post: 6628843" data-attributes="member: 6787650">You're using Planar Binding differently than I've proposed to, though. If I'm viewing them as ordnance (expend 40,000 gold to kill a loathed enemy dead) I'd be perfectly happy to have a caster waste his turn casting Dispel Magic on one of my air elementals/invisible stalkers. Even if it works, the other 39 of them will murder him and all of his friends. The fact that I'll have 30-odd air elementals left over at the end to serve me for the next year is a bonus, but I am willing to expend all 40 to get the job done. (Hypothetical &quot;I&quot; = &quot;a powerful, wealthy malevolent creature with reason to personally hate you&quot;.)The whole reason I'd use 40 is to insulate myself against the &quot;offense as defense&quot; strategy, which Dispel Magic plays into. Against 8 elementals, if four PCs each eliminate one elemental in the first turn (via Dispel Magic/Action Surge/Banishment/whatever), you've degraded the enemy threat by 50% and will probably win. Against 40 elementals, you've degraded the threat by 10% and are probably about to die this turn.Edited to add: in a more standard dungeoneering situation like you're discussing, if I'm a PC encountering an annoying number of enemy spellcasters who are dispelling my 9th level Planar Bindings and annoying me thereby... Hmmmm. If Counterspell isn't an option (is being Counterspelled), I think my next move would be to cast Seeming on all of my bound creatures. I know you like to use Goristros and yugoloths, so I'd probably disguise them as trolls and ogres. Who's going to waste time Dispelling Magic on a troll?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="FormerlyHemlock, post: 6628843, member: 6787650"] You're using Planar Binding differently than I've proposed to, though. If I'm viewing them as ordnance (expend 40,000 gold to kill a loathed enemy dead) I'd be perfectly happy to have a caster waste his turn casting Dispel Magic on one of my air elementals/invisible stalkers. Even if it works, the other 39 of them will murder him and all of his friends. The fact that I'll have 30-odd air elementals left over at the end to serve me for the next year is a bonus, but I am willing to expend all 40 to get the job done. (Hypothetical "I" = "a powerful, wealthy malevolent creature with reason to personally hate you".) The whole reason I'd use 40 is to insulate myself against the "offense as defense" strategy, which Dispel Magic plays into. Against 8 elementals, if four PCs each eliminate one elemental in the first turn (via Dispel Magic/Action Surge/Banishment/whatever), you've degraded the enemy threat by 50% and will probably win. Against 40 elementals, you've degraded the threat by 10% and are probably about to die this turn. [B]Edited to add:[/B] in a more standard dungeoneering situation like you're discussing, if I'm a PC encountering an annoying number of enemy spellcasters who are dispelling my 9th level Planar Bindings and annoying me thereby... Hmmmm. If Counterspell isn't an option (is being Counterspelled), I think my next move would be to cast Seeming on all of my bound creatures. I know you like to use Goristros and yugoloths, so I'd probably disguise them as trolls and ogres. Who's going to waste time Dispelling Magic on a troll? [/QUOTE]

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