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<blockquote data-quote="rushlight" data-source="post: 1687769" data-attributes="member: 3801">You failed to read the entire spell. &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Of note: &nbsp;1) &quot;second effect of the gate spell is to call an extraplanar creature to your aid&quot; The mage must be an extraplanar creature. Also, your definition of &quot;aid&quot; must be different than mine. &nbsp;2) The above point is irrelevent because the spell clearly states, &quot;Deities and unique beings are under no compulsion to come through the gate, although they may choose to do so of their own accord.&quot; Note that the spell clarifies: &quot;If you choose to call a kind of creature instead of a known individual you...&quot; and &quot;Deities and unique beings cannot be controlled in any event.&quot; The spell clearly states that only a kind of creature can be controlled, and if specific beings are called, they choose if the come, and are uncontrolled. &nbsp;&nbsp;If your PCs are calling a monster to go and fight a creature far above their level just to get XP then the problem isn't with the spell, it's with your idiot players who are trying to break the system and the misguided DM who is allowing them. I could make the same case that if a DM allows a Fireball spell to kill the whole world, then Fireball is broken and should be banned. Duh - the problem isn't with the spell, or the rules. More / different / better rules will never fix broken players.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="rushlight, post: 1687769, member: 3801"] You failed to read the entire spell. [color=windowtext] [/color] Of note: 1) "second effect of the [i]gate [/i]spell is to call an extraplanar creature to your aid" The mage must be an extraplanar creature. Also, your definition of "aid" must be different than mine. 2) The above point is irrelevent because the spell clearly states, "Deities and [b]unique beings[/b] are under no compulsion to come through the [i]gate, [/i]although they may choose to do so of their own accord." Note that the spell clarifies: "[color=windowtext]If you choose to call [b]a kind of creature[/b] instead of [b]a known individual[/b] you..." and "Deities and [b]unique beings[/b] cannot be controlled in any event." The spell clearly states that only a [b]kind of creature[/b] can be controlled, and if specific beings are called, they choose if the come, and are uncontrolled. [/color] If your PCs are calling a monster to go and fight a creature far above their level just to get XP then the problem isn't with the spell, it's with your idiot players who are [b]trying[/b] to break the system and the misguided DM who is allowing them. I could make the same case that if a DM allows a [i]Fireball[/i] spell to kill the whole world, then [i]Fireball[/i] is broken and should be banned. Duh - the problem isn't with the spell, or the rules. More / different / better rules will never fix [i]broken players[/i]. [/QUOTE]

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