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<blockquote data-quote="SSquirrel" data-source="post: 1407512" data-attributes="member: 5202"><p>First up also consider that the Glittering Caves of Aglarond (where Gimli REALLY fell back to during the Battle of Helm's Deep) are ruled by Gimli until he leaves and Legolas brings a lot of elves to the nearby area of Ithilien as well. </p><p></p><p>The Mouth of Sauron was human but who knows what Sauron had done to make him live longer. He could well be around. The Nazgul burst into flames as did their beasts they flew on b/c they were inherently tied to the one ring. </p><p>It was the only thing basically allowing them to continue. Once it was gone, so were they. Minas Morgul did not fall, but the Black Gate and Barad-Dur did. Hmm...looking in the ROTK I can't find the destruction of the Nazgul, but I'm pretty sure it's covered in one of the other books like Lost Tales etc.</p><p></p><p>The lands of the East will offer a wealth of ideas as Tolkien only really developed that area in the Silmarillion and that was prior to either of the giant lamps of the world being destroyed by Morgoth. I can imagine that the Blue WIzards and Saruman went into the east (as is stated in the books) and they got caught up in power and such and started an empire (or a feuding pair) and still rule it today. Saruman would have left in disgust at the time.</p><p></p><p>Half Elves>Elrond is the only Half Elf in the world. His sons are thus 3/4 Elven. I don't know if I would really include Half Elves in the game. Maybe have some elves who couldn't leave the world and thus are still around. The elves of Mirkwood and down in Ithilien are obviously still around tochoose from.</p><p></p><p>Beornings>They don't become nearly as powerful as Beorn until they're around 20th level. I think the Bear Totem Warrior from AU is a perfect fit for them. Also, the men that Beorn gathered to him never achieved his equal, but they were both strong and good men.</p><p></p><p>1/2 Orcs>Nope, they'd be gutted in the street *grin* Besides, in ME Orcs are the product of magical experiments and not procreation. I would say that the threat of orcs will be seriously hindered by this point, unless someone like the blue wizards has discovered the methods of creating them as Saruman did.</p><p></p><p>Possibly some spiders in Mirkwood and I would imagine SHelob is back to her old tricks by now as she was not killed...but she was very wounded. Her eyes would likely never regenerate...but I know nothing of spiders maybe they would. Some dragons were still to be found in the North I believe, but more up by the blue mountains near the parts of the world that went away at the end of the First Age. The Silmarillion hints that more than 1 Balrog escaped to hide, not so sure about vampires and werewolves. Huorns are easily covered by using treants and I would say that any that are far away from Treebeard are more likely to be problematic. Tom Bombadil is likely still the master of his own small world as well. "He was the first and so shall he be the last" or some such.</p><p></p><p>Hagen (a great big Tolkien geek)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="SSquirrel, post: 1407512, member: 5202"] First up also consider that the Glittering Caves of Aglarond (where Gimli REALLY fell back to during the Battle of Helm's Deep) are ruled by Gimli until he leaves and Legolas brings a lot of elves to the nearby area of Ithilien as well. The Mouth of Sauron was human but who knows what Sauron had done to make him live longer. He could well be around. The Nazgul burst into flames as did their beasts they flew on b/c they were inherently tied to the one ring. It was the only thing basically allowing them to continue. Once it was gone, so were they. Minas Morgul did not fall, but the Black Gate and Barad-Dur did. Hmm...looking in the ROTK I can't find the destruction of the Nazgul, but I'm pretty sure it's covered in one of the other books like Lost Tales etc. The lands of the East will offer a wealth of ideas as Tolkien only really developed that area in the Silmarillion and that was prior to either of the giant lamps of the world being destroyed by Morgoth. I can imagine that the Blue WIzards and Saruman went into the east (as is stated in the books) and they got caught up in power and such and started an empire (or a feuding pair) and still rule it today. Saruman would have left in disgust at the time. Half Elves>Elrond is the only Half Elf in the world. His sons are thus 3/4 Elven. I don't know if I would really include Half Elves in the game. Maybe have some elves who couldn't leave the world and thus are still around. The elves of Mirkwood and down in Ithilien are obviously still around tochoose from. Beornings>They don't become nearly as powerful as Beorn until they're around 20th level. I think the Bear Totem Warrior from AU is a perfect fit for them. Also, the men that Beorn gathered to him never achieved his equal, but they were both strong and good men. 1/2 Orcs>Nope, they'd be gutted in the street *grin* Besides, in ME Orcs are the product of magical experiments and not procreation. I would say that the threat of orcs will be seriously hindered by this point, unless someone like the blue wizards has discovered the methods of creating them as Saruman did. Possibly some spiders in Mirkwood and I would imagine SHelob is back to her old tricks by now as she was not killed...but she was very wounded. Her eyes would likely never regenerate...but I know nothing of spiders maybe they would. Some dragons were still to be found in the North I believe, but more up by the blue mountains near the parts of the world that went away at the end of the First Age. The Silmarillion hints that more than 1 Balrog escaped to hide, not so sure about vampires and werewolves. Huorns are easily covered by using treants and I would say that any that are far away from Treebeard are more likely to be problematic. Tom Bombadil is likely still the master of his own small world as well. "He was the first and so shall he be the last" or some such. Hagen (a great big Tolkien geek) [/QUOTE]
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