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<blockquote data-quote="Steverooo" data-source="post: 1416628" data-attributes="member: 9410">Another Idea...We're told that Minas Morgul wasn't cleansed for &quot;many lives of men&quot;, and I doubt that 100 years is enough to qualify as &quot;many&quot;...&nbsp; From what Aragorn (IIRC) says, the pale flowers of the vale make you go to sleep... (and, I assume, die shortly thereafter).Anyway, if the Mouth of Sauron is still alive after the Battle of the Morannon, this would be a good place for him to hole up, where King Elessar couldn't get to him (and isn't there still a palantir, there?)&nbsp; Also, if Shelob is still alive, she would have his back door.&nbsp; The remaining orcs of northern Mordor would also be holing up in that area, and could be attracted to his power...Seeing his former master's defeat (just as Sauron saw Morgoth's), he would probably prefer to work through means more subtle than armies and undead.&nbsp; Especially with the former-slaves of southern Mordor now formed into another enemy palatinate at his back.Lots of possible plot hooks, there.Hmmm!&nbsp; Now what would the &quot;Mouth of Sauron&quot; call himself, if he's forgotten his own name, now that Sauron is gone?...&nbsp; The Dark Lord?&nbsp;&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f631.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":eek:" title="Eek!&nbsp; &nbsp; :eek:"&nbsp; data-smilie="9"data-shortname=":eek:" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="Steverooo, post: 1416628, member: 9410"] [b]Another Idea...[/b] We're told that Minas Morgul wasn't cleansed for "many lives of men", and I doubt that 100 years is enough to qualify as "many"... From what Aragorn (IIRC) says, the pale flowers of the vale make you go to sleep... (and, I assume, die shortly thereafter). Anyway, if the Mouth of Sauron is still alive after the Battle of the Morannon, this would be a good place for him to hole up, where King Elessar couldn't get to him (and isn't there still a palantir, there?) Also, if Shelob is still alive, she would have his back door. The remaining orcs of northern Mordor would also be holing up in that area, and could be attracted to his power... Seeing his former master's defeat (just as Sauron saw Morgoth's), he would probably prefer to work through means more subtle than armies and undead. Especially with the former-slaves of southern Mordor now formed into another enemy palatinate at his back. Lots of possible plot hooks, there. Hmmm! Now what would the "Mouth of Sauron" call himself, if he's forgotten his own name, now that Sauron is gone?... The Dark Lord? :eek: [/QUOTE]

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