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<blockquote data-quote="Wofano Wotanto" data-source="post: 9657964" data-attributes="member: 7044704">Rainy City sounded great in the reviews I've seen of it, FWIW.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Primal_Order" target="_blank">Primal Order</a>'s also got some historical significance, although finding a copy of the original printing of the core book could be tricky.&nbsp; Not only was it the first RPG product published by WotC, it's also the book Kevin Siembieda sued WotC over because it included some quick conversion suggestions for using Palladium Fantasy with it.&nbsp; They eventually settled out of court and Wotc did a second print run with Palladium excised, but the monetary threat was severe enough that one of the WotC newsletters included Peter Adkison himself asking for donations for legal fees.&nbsp; I sent him $5.Chessboards came out in 1993 at the same GenCon Magic was released, and that was the end of Primal Order and the CapSystem rules-agnostic stuff from WotC, sadly.There's some alternate timeline where Palladium's suit did kill WotC, Magic as we know it never came out, the whole CCG boom was late or never arrived, and D&amp;D probably got carved up when TSR collapsed.There's also some timeline where WotC felt like being vindictive and casually drove Palladium out of business with mounds of Magic cash, then made sure Kevin never worked in the gaming industry again.The fact that they're all perpetually free now makes them a good choice to just go randomly browse through when the whim takes you.&nbsp; I used to own all the books for multiple editions, and I still find myself going back to the pdfs for the odd stroll down memory lane.Just thought of another system-agnostic product in the same style as Primal Order (ie conversion notes for many systems without one default choice) - Chaosium's Thieves' World boxed set had stats for nine different systems, the weirdest of which was probably LBB Traveller.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Wofano Wotanto, post: 9657964, member: 7044704"] Rainy City sounded great in the reviews I've seen of it, FWIW. [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Primal_Order']Primal Order[/URL]'s also got some historical significance, although finding a copy of the original printing of the core book could be tricky. Not only was it the first RPG product published by WotC, it's also the book Kevin Siembieda sued WotC over because it included some quick conversion suggestions for using Palladium Fantasy with it. They eventually settled out of court and Wotc did a second print run with Palladium excised, but the monetary threat was severe enough that one of the WotC newsletters included Peter Adkison himself asking for donations for legal fees. I sent him $5. Chessboards came out in 1993 at the same GenCon Magic was released, and that was the end of Primal Order and the CapSystem rules-agnostic stuff from WotC, sadly. There's some alternate timeline where Palladium's suit did kill WotC, Magic as we know it never came out, the whole CCG boom was late or never arrived, and D&D probably got carved up when TSR collapsed. There's also some timeline where WotC felt like being vindictive and casually drove Palladium out of business with mounds of Magic cash, then made sure Kevin never worked in the gaming industry again. The fact that they're all perpetually free now makes them a good choice to just go randomly browse through when the whim takes you. I used to own all the books for multiple editions, and I still find myself going back to the pdfs for the odd stroll down memory lane. Just thought of another system-agnostic product in the same style as Primal Order (ie conversion notes for many systems without one default choice) - Chaosium's Thieves' World boxed set had stats for nine different systems, the weirdest of which was probably LBB Traveller. [/QUOTE]

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