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Message: <blockquote data-quote="kinem" data-source="post: 5723625" data-attributes="member: 24234">Read the 3.5 SRD or pick up a MM:<a href="http://http://www.d20srd.org/srd/typesSubtypes.htm#incorporealSubtype" target="_blank">Incorporeal Subtype</a>The assumption obviously is that the modern force has no magic (at least to start; and what they can get is by taking from the enemy). Otherwise it's just a mixed tech/magic force which is trivially superior to either a modern or a magic force.Korjik, just a style point here but your repetition of "blam" is annoying and does not stand you in good stead.As for your statements they are clearly false. The mage could easily protect himself from bullets but in any case he wouldn't need to; the greater invisibility means that the moderns would have no idea he's even there.You are vastly underestimating what high intelligence coupled with divination magic is capable of.Again, the moderrn force would have no access to blessed ammo, nor would they have any clue that it's what's needed. Apparently neither do you, since devils require silver, not cold iron.Using d20 modern stats, bombs do a lot less damage than you think.Obviously a lot depends on the scenario, but you don't seem to even know the rules.As for snipers vs. high level mages, that's what the contingency spell is for. And assuming he's a member of a a high level party, even blowing his head to bits would only take him out until the others bring him back. Or if he's a lich then he auto-ressurects as many times as he needs to.As for shooting the clerics, that is obviously BS. The sides are obviously talking to each other at that point. Their magic is real and the moderns would see it. They might think it's of the devil, or they might be convinced and convert - that depends on a lot of factors, but I think a single high level cleric is all you'd need - send him ahead. He speaks the modern language just fine thanks to tongues spells. He gets the lay of the land, asks questions, gets on TV (no problem given that he sure can put on a show), gets tons of followers, soon enough he is running the whole place.</blockquote>

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