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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Umbran" data-source="post: 5724423" data-attributes="member: 177">With all due respect to our military forces, I think recent history has shown that our modern imaging techniques are not particularly good at finding particular individuals who don't want to get shot or blown up - those still seem to require more mundane intelligence gathering techniques.Let's assume, however, that the horde leader isn't trying to hide from satellite imagery.  It is still very difficult to identify individuals, and there's a delay between when you snap the picture, and the arrival of the munitions - and individuals tend to move around.  But, more importantly, you're the head of a fantasy horde - that means your pretty badass (have lots of hit points, and maybe Improved Evasion) and you fail to be stupid.  You've got powerful spellcasters, and are used to looking out for the enemy sending dragons and whatnot.  You're telling me you don't have folks keeping air elementals and the like in the skies whacking anything bigger than a goose out of the sky?  Nothing in the d20 SRD spell description says it'd be stopped by any particular material.Knowing nothing about him makes it a +10.  But even having secondhand knowledge (like a newspaper) makes it only a +5.  Getting an image of him (see again, that newspaper) puts that down to a +3.  The newspaper won't have a lot on generals, true.  But actual national leaders should be pretty easy to find.And that's before you get to using any other divinations to get information about the targets.Well, then of course magic loses.  The discussion is trivial and uninteresting if either side is significantly nerfed.</blockquote>

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