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<blockquote data-quote="El Mahdi" data-source="post: 5731795" data-attributes="member: 59506"><p>Yeah, I agree...it wouldn't make much sense at all. Titanium anything is one of those silly tropes that seems to have life due to the idea that anything new or technological must be better.</p><p> </p><p>Titanium is only used in applications where something requires strength greater than aluminum, but requiring the end product to be as light as possible, which rules out steel.</p><p> </p><p>Titanium is not stronger than steel, it just has a better tensile strength to density <em>ratio</em>. The tensile strength of steels is still 3 to 5 times higher than titanium alloys.</p><p> </p><p>It's like the power to weight ratio of a vehicle. A motorcycle may have a much better power to weight ratio than a truck, but you're still not going to be able to tow anything with the motorcycle. Hands down, the truck is going to have more power.</p><p> </p><p>That's why I always laugh when I watch the <em>Blade</em> movies. Blades titanium sword is about as useful as a stainless steel replica sword against a real, weapons grade steel sword. A decent parry or strike from the steel sword is going to snap Blades sword into an useless piece of junk.</p><p> </p><p>I know, a bit off topic but I couldn't help myself.<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f631.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":o" title="Eek! :o" data-smilie="9"data-shortname=":o" /></p><p> </p><p> </p><p>But yeah, some of our modern materials could come in quite handily. Kevlar and other polymers, ceramics, and modern industrial techniques could be significant factors in a tech-forces chances of invading the magic-forces realms. Our industrial capabilities would definitely allow us to make armor and weapons much faster than the other side, though we wouldn't necessarily make them of any better quality. Even with our modern understanding of what makes steel useful in armor and weapons, I doubt we could actually improve upon the best made swords and armors made with medieval techniques. But cranking out a couple hundred to thousands of Mail shirts a day could be very advantageous.</p><p> </p><p>Though for fighting against medieval weapons, I don't think Kevlar or ceramics would help in making better armor. Against bullets they're very good. Against slashing and piercing weapons, kevlar is just about useless. And chopping/bludgeoning weapons (maces, axes, etc.) would likely shatter ceramics and hard polymers.</p><p> </p><p>But a very interesting technological material might be very useful against medieval weapons: sheer-thickening fluid used in "liquid" body-armors. That could make very light and flexible armors that are as protective as full plate!<img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/glasses.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt="B-)" title="Glasses B-)" data-shortname="B-)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="El Mahdi, post: 5731795, member: 59506"] Yeah, I agree...it wouldn't make much sense at all. Titanium anything is one of those silly tropes that seems to have life due to the idea that anything new or technological must be better. Titanium is only used in applications where something requires strength greater than aluminum, but requiring the end product to be as light as possible, which rules out steel. Titanium is not stronger than steel, it just has a better tensile strength to density [I]ratio[/I]. The tensile strength of steels is still 3 to 5 times higher than titanium alloys. It's like the power to weight ratio of a vehicle. A motorcycle may have a much better power to weight ratio than a truck, but you're still not going to be able to tow anything with the motorcycle. Hands down, the truck is going to have more power. That's why I always laugh when I watch the [I]Blade[/I] movies. Blades titanium sword is about as useful as a stainless steel replica sword against a real, weapons grade steel sword. A decent parry or strike from the steel sword is going to snap Blades sword into an useless piece of junk. I know, a bit off topic but I couldn't help myself.:o But yeah, some of our modern materials could come in quite handily. Kevlar and other polymers, ceramics, and modern industrial techniques could be significant factors in a tech-forces chances of invading the magic-forces realms. Our industrial capabilities would definitely allow us to make armor and weapons much faster than the other side, though we wouldn't necessarily make them of any better quality. Even with our modern understanding of what makes steel useful in armor and weapons, I doubt we could actually improve upon the best made swords and armors made with medieval techniques. But cranking out a couple hundred to thousands of Mail shirts a day could be very advantageous. Though for fighting against medieval weapons, I don't think Kevlar or ceramics would help in making better armor. Against bullets they're very good. Against slashing and piercing weapons, kevlar is just about useless. And chopping/bludgeoning weapons (maces, axes, etc.) would likely shatter ceramics and hard polymers. But a very interesting technological material might be very useful against medieval weapons: sheer-thickening fluid used in "liquid" body-armors. That could make very light and flexible armors that are as protective as full plate!B-) [/QUOTE]
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