Reply to thread

Message

<blockquote data-quote="Upper_Krust" data-source="post: 4814756" data-attributes="member: 326">Howdy wingandsword! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Actually those have existed since OD&amp;D.&nbsp; Exactly, they are for the most part unknown. For anyone wanting to play a 30+ campaign my suggestion is that you lift the veil on these mysterious beings.&nbsp;Would level 31+ PCs be 'mortal'? I don't think so.&nbsp; Arguable, Tharizdun was challenged and imprisoned.&nbsp;All power is relative, even infinite power.Obviously something has to be able to affect these beings, otherwise their inclusion (as opponents) is pointless.None of the above remotely begin to tax my divine hierarchy.Mortals &lt; Demigods &lt; Gods &lt; Sidereals (aka Overgods) &lt; Eternals (aka Time Lords) &lt; Supernals (aka Supreme Beings) &lt; Ultrals (hypothetical strata).As already mentioned, that is for the imprisoned form of Tharizdun. Try reading the Gary Gygax' Gord the Rogue novels (specifically Dance of Demons) for more information on Tharizdun.&nbsp; Thats because you are thinking of levels in a linear fashion. Think of them as a pyramid tapering to a point...or at least to a plateau with a big eye at the top. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />If overgods are to gods as gods are to mortals then it stands to reason that a group of powerful gods could do battle with a (relatively weak) overgod. Just like a group of mortals could battle with Demogorgon, Tiamat or Vecna.There are any number of interesting ways to bridge these gaps.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Upper_Krust, post: 4814756, member: 326"] Howdy wingandsword! :) Actually those have existed since OD&D. Exactly, they are for the most part unknown. For anyone wanting to play a 30+ campaign my suggestion is that you lift the veil on these mysterious beings. Would level 31+ PCs be 'mortal'? I don't think so. Arguable, Tharizdun was challenged and imprisoned. All power is relative, even infinite power. Obviously something has to be able to affect these beings, otherwise their inclusion (as opponents) is pointless. None of the above remotely begin to tax my divine hierarchy. Mortals < Demigods < Gods < Sidereals (aka Overgods) < Eternals (aka Time Lords) < Supernals (aka Supreme Beings) < Ultrals (hypothetical strata). As already mentioned, that is for the imprisoned form of Tharizdun. Try reading the Gary Gygax' Gord the Rogue novels (specifically Dance of Demons) for more information on Tharizdun. Thats because you are thinking of levels in a linear fashion. Think of them as a pyramid tapering to a point...or at least to a plateau with a big eye at the top. ;) If overgods are to gods as gods are to mortals then it stands to reason that a group of powerful gods could do battle with a (relatively weak) overgod. Just like a group of mortals could battle with Demogorgon, Tiamat or Vecna. There are any number of interesting ways to bridge these gaps. [/QUOTE]

Verification