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Message: <blockquote data-quote="EzekielRaiden" data-source="post: 6796249" data-attributes="member: 6790260">I'm not really sure why a +N shield wouldn't stack with +M armor. The shield's bonus adds to what it contributes to your AC, and can be lost or removed in ways that armor can't be (dropping it, for instance). And if the +N from the shield *doesn't* stack, why is it that the natural +2 of the shield *does*? I don't see the logic there.Edit: Also, uh, no you don't actually have to have that much "lower" rolls elsewhere. A Barbarian that goes for maxed Dex and Con can attack with that max Dex, giving actually more versatility than if they'd gone Str+heavy armor, particularly since they can still wear a shield (and thus, under your scheme, get the benefits of a magic shield without "wasting" the benefit of magic armor). Mountain Dwarf gives you +2 Con and +2 Str; with point buy, you can get 16/14/16 as your physical stats and no negative mental modifiers (or one +1, one -1, one 0, if you prefer). You'd expend your five feats to get Dex and Con to 20 (3 Dex, 2 Con), and then at max level, you'd end up with 20/20/24/10/10/10 or something like that. 22 base AC (Unarmored Defense, 10+5+7); baller magic shield gives a total of +5; magic jewellery gives another +2, possibly more if there are Rings of Protection that give bigger than +1 bonuses (there may or may not be). Total AC is at least 29, without any buffs. You're only so-so at any mental tasks, but physical tasks are hugely your wheelhouse; you can use any ranged or melee weapon with equal ease. If you roll and get even slightly lucky (since PB is less effective than the average roll), you may even be able to squeeze some "full" feats in there.For comparison, with your "armor and shield +X don't stack" rule, a Fighter or Paladin can get 1 (Defensive style) + 21 (+3 plate) + 2 (shield) + 1 (ring of prot) + 1 (Ioun stone) = 26 total AC. Meaning you're exactly 3 AC "behind"...</blockquote>

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