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Message: <blockquote data-quote="moritheil" data-source="post: 2212861" data-attributes="member: 30610">I see a lot of neat builds to a staggeringly high level at 20, which are really cool.  However, I'm curious as to what some builds would look like along the way.  I mean, if played from level 1, would such builds suffer from sub-optimal power until the "mother lode" of Holy Word (or the "mother lode" of level 20)?Along these lines, I'm curious as to whether or not a build can be made such that Holy Word is abuseable right off the bat when you get it.  At level 13, clerics get Holy Word.  Is it possible, then and there, to already have built up to at least +11 to CL so that you can kill things with more HD than you right when you get the spell?  (Including items.)</blockquote>