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<blockquote data-quote="Turjan" data-source="post: 1342656" data-attributes="member: 3477"><p>Where do you see the problem? My list matches <a href="http://scholar.chem.nyu.edu/tekpages/urbanpop.html" target="_blank">this list</a> of Joe B. (and this is also the list you cited) perfectly. You have, first, to consider the area (just read my post; I had only Central and Western Europe listed, not Spain, Italy, Russia, North Africa or Middle Asia) and, second, the population size intervals in the categories differ in both sources.</p><p>My numbers are taken from Putzger's Historical World Atlas, from a map about population and economy in Central and Western Europe around 1500 (time of early capitalism). That book is pretty accurate.</p><p>As far as the numbers of the population of Paris goes, this is a question of definition. The number of 185,000 does not match the other links either; in that link where you took your city lists from Paris is found in the 50,000 to 125,000 group, so no 185,000 either. Maybe they just added some of the surrounded cities which belong to today's "Greater Paris" metropolitan area. I think the number of 80,000 is a better match for Paris' population around that time.</p><p></p><p>That's right for the classic period. In the early middle ages, the population went down to about 50,000 inhabitants, and the people of Rome was living between the maginificent ruins of better days. Quite nice a scenario for a fantasy setting <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Turjan, post: 1342656, member: 3477"] Where do you see the problem? My list matches [url=http://scholar.chem.nyu.edu/tekpages/urbanpop.html]this list[/url] of Joe B. (and this is also the list you cited) perfectly. You have, first, to consider the area (just read my post; I had only Central and Western Europe listed, not Spain, Italy, Russia, North Africa or Middle Asia) and, second, the population size intervals in the categories differ in both sources. My numbers are taken from Putzger's Historical World Atlas, from a map about population and economy in Central and Western Europe around 1500 (time of early capitalism). That book is pretty accurate. As far as the numbers of the population of Paris goes, this is a question of definition. The number of 185,000 does not match the other links either; in that link where you took your city lists from Paris is found in the 50,000 to 125,000 group, so no 185,000 either. Maybe they just added some of the surrounded cities which belong to today's "Greater Paris" metropolitan area. I think the number of 80,000 is a better match for Paris' population around that time. That's right for the classic period. In the early middle ages, the population went down to about 50,000 inhabitants, and the people of Rome was living between the maginificent ruins of better days. Quite nice a scenario for a fantasy setting :D. [/QUOTE]
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