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<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 2218361" data-attributes="member: 4937"><p>I don't quite understand what you are saying, but you seem to be suggesting that if you kill a slaves master and free him, that he'll be so grateful that he'll be willing to fight for you to the death.</p><p></p><p>I would be very surprised indeed if this was always the case. Each particular would differ from slave to slave. Lawfully aligned slaves from a culture that accepts slaves are just as likely to fight to the death for thier masters, and even those with no particular love of thier masters might not see the fact that there master was a hard man (or woman) as reason enough to kill him. Remember, in many cases the slave will see himself and be seen as part of the family, and this is especially true if they are born into the family. Consider that the antebellum South's slave culture is widely regarded as one of the most degrading in history, and yet I happen to know many cases even then where newly freed slaves begged thier former owners to let them stay on with the family as hired hands and in fact did so. This may seem strange to us modern folks, but its probably not historically unusual. And even among slaves that see the death of thier master and their freedom as good things, most aren't going to be in general wanting to do anything more but head for the hills or home.</p><p></p><p>Unless you've got someone with a +30 or better Diplomacy skill, don't expect your actions to be treated by the society at large - even by the slaves - as anything more than random acts of terrorism with occasionally fortutious consequences. See John Brown, for example.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 2218361, member: 4937"] I don't quite understand what you are saying, but you seem to be suggesting that if you kill a slaves master and free him, that he'll be so grateful that he'll be willing to fight for you to the death. I would be very surprised indeed if this was always the case. Each particular would differ from slave to slave. Lawfully aligned slaves from a culture that accepts slaves are just as likely to fight to the death for thier masters, and even those with no particular love of thier masters might not see the fact that there master was a hard man (or woman) as reason enough to kill him. Remember, in many cases the slave will see himself and be seen as part of the family, and this is especially true if they are born into the family. Consider that the antebellum South's slave culture is widely regarded as one of the most degrading in history, and yet I happen to know many cases even then where newly freed slaves begged thier former owners to let them stay on with the family as hired hands and in fact did so. This may seem strange to us modern folks, but its probably not historically unusual. And even among slaves that see the death of thier master and their freedom as good things, most aren't going to be in general wanting to do anything more but head for the hills or home. Unless you've got someone with a +30 or better Diplomacy skill, don't expect your actions to be treated by the society at large - even by the slaves - as anything more than random acts of terrorism with occasionally fortutious consequences. See John Brown, for example. [/QUOTE]
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