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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 2220530" data-attributes="member: 4937">You might want to look up Boudicca's Revolt.   Several hundred thousand Briton barbarians versus probably 15,000 or so Roman Legionaires.  Exact numbers are hard to say, because the Briton figure probably includes the women and children, but the casualty figures are probably close to accurate.  The Briton's lost 80,000.  The Romans lost 400.You don't successfully form an empire if you don't have no how to deal with mobs of irregular fighters.Even during Spartacus's revolt when the Romans are losing, you are dealing with situations where the Romans are often outnumbered 10 to 1, and even then I'd say the main difference is Spartacus was a lot better at leading armies than your average slave commander.  In my opinion, the Veteran Roman Legions are better modeled as 3rd and 4th level fighters than as 1st level warriors.  These aren't part time amateur warriors.  These are well trained battle harded units that go around mauling barbarian armies, putting down slave revolts, crushing rebellions, and defeating the best armies in the western world often despite a lack of imaginative tactics or good leadership.</blockquote>