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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Enkhidu" data-source="post: 965450" data-attributes="member: 351">OK, let's look at your points in a timeline:Say goodbye to two of the religions of the book. No Judaism (as the entire people are eradicated), and therefore no Christianity. Islam may still have a chance to arise, though it will likely take a different form (as Islam traces its roots to Abraham through his son Ishmael). Note that no Christianity means no unifying religion in Rome later on, which would effect a lot of things.We're going to take these together as they do similar things to Rome. With Carthage still the strongest sea-power in the Mediterranean (and, indeed on the Atlantic coasts), Rome cannot expand directly westward, only northwestward into Gaul. Because so many of the successful generals during Rome's expansion came from Iberia (even a few emporers!), it is not improbable that Rome would have failed against the Gauls in that endeavor (mainly because they could no longer match the numbers of the armies the Franks and Gauls could muster). Likewise, with Greece unsubdued, they cannot reach eastward along the coast, only northeastward into the plains of the Slavic peoples. It is probable that Greece would have moved to stop their annexation of Dacia, however, and Rome would not have been able to raise legios from that area.Therefore, its possible that Rome would not have been able to expand too much farther than present day Italy. Likely, it would have remained a Republic with a small but extremely strong and fierce army of landholders. It's possible that by 600, it would still survive if it did not fall to a stronger power.Now comes the fun part...Mediterranean Europe is divided into several sovereign Empires in an uneasy peace. This makes it possible, in about 400 CE (no Jesus, remember?), for Alaric and his Huns to sweep across Europe, conquering as he goes.[Historically, Alaric was stopped by a Roman general of the Western Empire named Aetius, who managed to play Alaric off of Theoderic and the Goths and eventually stop the Huns with the threat of a final showdown with the combined forces of Rome and its western allies. This force would not exist in the timeline you are supposing. By the way, Alaric almost won anyway, and went as far as minting his own currency at one time.]Now, Alaric would most likely be assasinated at the height of his power (likely by a relative), but not before he subdued the Goths in middle-europe. Its possible the Huns reached the coast of France before they disintigrated into warring tribes again, though it is doubtful that the Huns (who's strength was in cavalry) would be able to cross the English channel and make inroads into England.If you'd like, I can continue with some suppositions about Britain, the Anglo-Saxon invasion, Celts, etc - but for now this is getting too long. Hope it helps!</blockquote>

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