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<blockquote data-quote="Galloglaich" data-source="post: 5040630" data-attributes="member: 77019">here is an amusing and interesting anecdote about armor by Usamah Ibn Munqih:&nbsp;&quot;Salah Al din (Saladin) stood in his place until a part of the army joined him.&nbsp; He then said, &quot;Put on your armor&quot;.&nbsp; The majority of those did so while I remained standing by his side.&nbsp; After a while he said again, 'How many times do I have to say &quot;Put on your Armor?''&nbsp; I said 'Oh my Lord, surely thou does not mean me?'&nbsp; 'Surely' said he.&nbsp; I replied 'By Allah, surely I cannot put on anything more.&nbsp; We are in the early part of the night, and my quilted jerkin (kuzaghand) is furnished with two coats of mail, one on top of the other.&nbsp; As soon as I see the enemy I shall put it on.'&nbsp; Salah al Din did not reply, and we set off. &nbsp;In the morning we found ourselves near Dumayr.&nbsp; Salah-al Din (Saladin) said to me 'Shall we not dismount and eat something?&nbsp; I am hungry and have been up all night.'&nbsp; I replied 'I shall do what thou orderest.'&nbsp; So we dismounted, and no sooner than we had set foot on the ground, when he said 'Where is thy jerkin?'&nbsp; Upon my order, my attendant produced it.&nbsp; Taking it out from it's leather bag, I took my knife and ripped it at the breast and disclosed the side of the two coats of mail.&nbsp; The jerkin enclosed a Frankish coat of mail extending to the bottom of it, with another coat on top reaching as far as the middle.&nbsp; Both were equipped with the proper linings, felt pads, rough silk, and rabbits hair.'&nbsp;The anecdote goes on to describe how Saladin awarded him a horse for having such impressive armor.&nbsp;But two coats of mail!&nbsp; No wonder he didn't want to wear it until he absolutely had to.&nbsp; I guess this is what you might classify as a 'Heavy' kazaghand or jazerant....&nbsp;G.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Galloglaich, post: 5040630, member: 77019"] here is an amusing and interesting anecdote about armor by Usamah Ibn Munqih: [COLOR=Cyan][I]"Salah Al din (Saladin) stood in his place until a part of the army joined him. He then said, "Put on your armor". The majority of those did so while I remained standing by his side. After a while he said again, 'How many times do I have to say "Put on your Armor?'' I said 'Oh my Lord, surely thou does not mean me?' 'Surely' said he. I replied 'By Allah, surely I cannot put on anything more. We are in the early part of the night, and my quilted jerkin (kuzaghand) is furnished with two coats of mail, one on top of the other. As soon as I see the enemy I shall put it on.' Salah al Din did not reply, and we set off. In the morning we found ourselves near Dumayr. Salah-al Din (Saladin) said to me 'Shall we not dismount and eat something? I am hungry and have been up all night.' I replied 'I shall do what thou orderest.' So we dismounted, and no sooner than we had set foot on the ground, when he said 'Where is thy jerkin?' Upon my order, my attendant produced it. Taking it out from it's leather bag, I took my knife and ripped it at the breast and disclosed the side of the two coats of mail. The jerkin enclosed a Frankish coat of mail extending to the bottom of it, with another coat on top reaching as far as the middle. Both were equipped with the proper linings, felt pads, rough silk, and rabbits hair.'[/I][/COLOR] The anecdote goes on to describe how Saladin awarded him a horse for having such impressive armor. But two coats of mail! No wonder he didn't want to wear it until he absolutely had to. I guess this is what you might classify as a 'Heavy' kazaghand or jazerant.... G. [/QUOTE]

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