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<blockquote data-quote="Galloglaich" data-source="post: 5188958" data-attributes="member: 77019"><p>This is a pretty good depiction of a realistic Medieval battle as you are likely to see.</p><p></p><p>In this clip (at about the half-way point) you can see the deployment of the Bohemian Hussite wagonberg at the battle of sudomer in this clip from 1950's Czech film about Jan Ziska (the guy with the eye patch and the mace in the film)</p><p></p><p>[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zapSxda7HY&feature=player_embedded"]YouTube - JAN ZIZKA (1955) - Battle of Sudomer 1[/ame]</p><p></p><p>In this clip you can see the big fight, it's quite entertaining in a goofy way</p><p></p><p>[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpaeyIbk8N8&feature=player_embedded"]YouTube - JAN ZIZKA (1955) - Battle of Sudomer 2[/ame]</p><p></p><p>Wiki on the actual battle:</p><p></p><p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Sudom%C4%9B%C5%99" target="_blank">Battle of Sudoměř - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia</a></p><p></p><p>Despite being made by the Communists in the worst period of Communist rule, this film is accurate in many technical details, from the wagons themselves, the houfince (howizers), hook guns & hand-culverins, the pavise shields, the crossbows, the 'articulated club' style flegels (flails), even the knightly armor of the Germans is in the ballpark (ok ... very broadly, some looks more 14th Century... but it''s more accurate for the period than the kit in the recent US film Robin Hood was). The Hussite (Czech) army did also have women in their ranks as depicted.</p><p></p><p>Of course the actual fighting looks pretty corny, and needless to say I think many if not most of the Crusaders horses should be armored, and I'm not sure about the Hussites slings. I know they threw rocks from those wagons.</p><p></p><p>And <em>of course </em>I don't think the Crusaders were quite as utterly ineffectual as the film makes out, in the real battle the Hussites lost one of their commanders and took heavy casualties, but the Czechs did win the battle historically despite being heavily outnumbered.</p><p></p><p>Here is a statue of the real Jan Ziska (that I'm embarrassed to say I didn't see myself when I was in Prague because I was too lazy to walk any more and my feet hurt)</p><p></p><p><img src="http://www.lexikonhospod.cz/pic/Zizka.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " data-size="" style="" /></p><p></p><p>And a contemporary drawing featuring Ziska (who was eventually made blind in both eyes) wielding a "dagger-mace" style war-hammer</p><p><img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c8/Jan_%C5%BDi%C5%BEka_z_Kalicha.gif" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " data-size="" style="" /></p><p></p><p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jan_%C5%BDi%C5%BEka" target="_blank">Jan Žižka - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia</a></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Galloglaich, post: 5188958, member: 77019"] This is a pretty good depiction of a realistic Medieval battle as you are likely to see. In this clip (at about the half-way point) you can see the deployment of the Bohemian Hussite wagonberg at the battle of sudomer in this clip from 1950's Czech film about Jan Ziska (the guy with the eye patch and the mace in the film) [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zapSxda7HY&feature=player_embedded"]YouTube - JAN ZIZKA (1955) - Battle of Sudomer 1[/ame] In this clip you can see the big fight, it's quite entertaining in a goofy way [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpaeyIbk8N8&feature=player_embedded"]YouTube - JAN ZIZKA (1955) - Battle of Sudomer 2[/ame] Wiki on the actual battle: [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Sudom%C4%9B%C5%99"]Battle of Sudoměř - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/URL] Despite being made by the Communists in the worst period of Communist rule, this film is accurate in many technical details, from the wagons themselves, the houfince (howizers), hook guns & hand-culverins, the pavise shields, the crossbows, the 'articulated club' style flegels (flails), even the knightly armor of the Germans is in the ballpark (ok ... very broadly, some looks more 14th Century... but it''s more accurate for the period than the kit in the recent US film Robin Hood was). The Hussite (Czech) army did also have women in their ranks as depicted. Of course the actual fighting looks pretty corny, and needless to say I think many if not most of the Crusaders horses should be armored, and I'm not sure about the Hussites slings. I know they threw rocks from those wagons. And [I]of course [/I]I don't think the Crusaders were quite as utterly ineffectual as the film makes out, in the real battle the Hussites lost one of their commanders and took heavy casualties, but the Czechs did win the battle historically despite being heavily outnumbered. Here is a statue of the real Jan Ziska (that I'm embarrassed to say I didn't see myself when I was in Prague because I was too lazy to walk any more and my feet hurt) [IMG]http://www.lexikonhospod.cz/pic/Zizka.jpg[/IMG] And a contemporary drawing featuring Ziska (who was eventually made blind in both eyes) wielding a "dagger-mace" style war-hammer [IMG]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c8/Jan_%C5%BDi%C5%BEka_z_Kalicha.gif[/IMG] [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jan_%C5%BDi%C5%BEka"]Jan Žižka - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/URL] [/QUOTE]
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