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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Galloglaich" data-source="post: 5397799" data-attributes="member: 77019">Found a good new source for costs of weapons and armor in the 15th Century.This book<a href="http://www.ibidem.com.pl/katalog/isbn83-912403-6-3.html" target="_blank">Katalog Wydawnictwa "Ibidem" - Tadeusz Grabarczyk, Piechota zaciężna Królestwa Polskiego w XV w.</a>Has this table in it.<a href="http://www.historycy.org/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=10705" target="_blank">http://www.historycy.org/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=10705</a>Which a guy on another forum translated for me.  I made a new table with translated prices and names (and prices in both Prague Groschen (Pg), and German Kreutzer (Kr) which are worth 60 Kreutzer for 1 Florin or Gulden:<img src="http://www.systemdarmes.com/sda/Portals/0/Gallery389/Misc%20Photos/_fixed/BalticEconomyCosts.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " data-size="" style="" />This is a little different from my last source and brings up some interesting questions.  Ok so, there are three swords issued here, one for 32 Groschen for horse archers, one for one for 72 for a lancer, and one for 120 in the 'very nice' category, also for a lancer.  Interestingly swords are only for cavalry here, infantry only get 'sabers' (probably messers) but more about that in a second.So I'm guessing the sword for a horse-archer may be a strait Polish sword called a <a href="http://www.kismeta.com/diGrasse/images/Battles/palasz_hussar.jpg" target="_blank">pallasch</a>, or possibly a <a href="http://www.kismeta.com/diGrasse/images/koncerz.jpg" target="_blank">kanzer</a> which is something like an estoc.  But these were not really common until later if this is the late 15th Century.  The top level sword, I would suspect, is a longsword or possibly just a very nice quality pallasch, perhaps with some hand protection (15th Century wouldn't be a basket-hilt like some later pallasz but it could have a knucklebow and a clamshell hilt like like this one<img src="http://archive.liveauctioneers.com/archive4/auctionsimperial/15292/0137_1_lg.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " data-size="" style="" />or this<img src="http://www.kismeta.com/diGrasse/images/Battles/hupal4A.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " data-size="" style="" />There are two crossbows, one for footmen (48 Gr.) one for horsemen (60 Gr.).  The more expensive one for horsemen is, I bet, a "German winder" or cranequin crossbow.  That is about the only type of military crossbow you can use on horseback because you don't have to span it with a stirrup.  A small but very heavy crossbow with a steel or laminate / composite prod like <a href="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/db/German_16th_century_crossbow_CAC.JPG" target="_blank">this one</a> .<img src="http://www.amoskeag-auction.com/77/thumbs/3578-11SILO.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " data-size="" style="" />  <img src="http://rodes.pagesperso-orange.fr/cranequin.bmp" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " data-size="" style="" /> The other one is probably what the Germans called a knottlearmbrust, a stirrup crossbow with a thick solid yew prod, like <a href="http://images.artfinding.com/lot/_240/peter_finer_gothic_south_german_crossbow_12294168442938.jpg" target="_blank">this one</a>  There are three types of sabers, the infantry one for 8 Gr is, I bet, a <a href="http://www.myarmoury.com/talk/viewtopic.php?t=10963" target="_blank">messer</a> or a Hungarian infantry szalba like <a href="http://www.swordsales.eu/images/Hungarian-or-Polish-16C-17C-Sabre-1.jpg" target="_blank">this one</a> you see both on period images of Czech troops.   The saber for light cavalry may be a Ruthenian (Cossack) <a href="http://www.tsarsarsenal.com/long_w/31_1905_silv_shashka_vivath/31_1905_silv_shashka_vivath.htm" target="_blank">shashka</a> <img src="http://www.tsarsarsenal.com/long_w/31_1905_silv_shashka_vivath/31_1905_silv_shashka_vivath_0.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " data-size="" style="" />The very expensive one for the lancer could be a Turkish Killij, or a Swedish heavy saber, or a a <a href="http://www.tsarsarsenal.com/long_w/16_ukr_karabella/16_ukr_karabella_0.jpg" target="_blank">Karabella</a>, or a really nice quality Polish or Hungarian <a href="http://www.myarmoury.com/talk/viewtopic.php?p=184056" target="_blank">Szalba</a> with a complex hilt, like this one:<img src="http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r139/MatthewGMK/szabla3.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " data-size="" style="" />.The cheaper horses are probably a schweik or a zhmud, the more expensive would be coursers or destriers.  Expensive!I was also impressed with how expensive the brigandine was.  But that jibes with my other numbers too.  For some reason a brigandine was considerably more expensive than a basic cuirass.  Maybe because it was more flexible and less bulky?</blockquote>

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