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Message: <blockquote data-quote="gizmo33" data-source="post: 4023612" data-attributes="member: 30001">Endless debates?  If you've discovered the secret of time travel please share.  I predict all these debates will eventually end.  As for "hearsay", I'll take as an example of that a statement that supposes that there's a group of people out there who are being "hysterical" in a way that's identical to the pre-3E days.Seriously though, I think your complaints are grounded in some actual rudeness or something and you have experienced that you are probably justified in complaining about.  But why not deal with those individually?  The OP seems like an over-generalization to me.I've seen a number of instances of something like this:Poster #1:  "The official campaign world for 4E will be based on My Little Pony."Gizmo33:  "Wow, that sounds like a horrible idea.  I don't think cute ponies give you a wide enough range of character options as in 3E.  What if I want to play a nightmare?"Poster #2:  "Stop being such a grognard Gizmo33, you don't even know if this is true or not because you don't have the complete 4E rules in front of you.  Playing an all-pony campaign might be awesome.  Besides, "pony" might really mean half-orc in 4E terminology.  You should purchase all the 4E books before you complain about them."Gizmo33:  "Well then I'm just saying IF such a thing were true, I think it would be a bad idea."So basically:1.  I cringe when you characterize someone's complaints as "hysteria".2.  I cringe at the patronizing tone of the OP.3.  I think it's reasonable to expect that WotCs statements about the game are fairly complete or worth evaluating as such.  Otherwise, I'd have to wonder what the point is of posting their new design ideas if it's not fair to try to make sense of them.</blockquote>

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