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<blockquote data-quote="noretoc" data-source="post: 4024055" data-attributes="member: 1276">I havn't chimed in much on the 3rd-4th debate, but this line is so true.&nbsp; I remember when 3rd was being sold one of the talking point was &quot;What is you wanted an orc that could was the size of an ogre.&nbsp; You would have to design a who different monster, 'Giant orc'.&nbsp; Now we have rules that work the same on all monsters.&nbsp; Once you have the rules down, increasing the orc to ogre size is the same as increasing the size of a wasp to a giant wasp.&nbsp; One system for everything, it will be so much simpler.&quot;&nbsp; I was all excited.&nbsp; &nbsp; Now I hear. &quot;If you want to increase the size of an orc, you have to follow compliacated rules on increasing strength, and hitdice, and figuring out CR that never works.&nbsp; In 4th, simply make a large orc and name it &quot;Giant orc&quot;&nbsp; it will be so much simpler.&quot;This is why I have yet to be impressed with anything I hear.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="noretoc, post: 4024055, member: 1276"] I havn't chimed in much on the 3rd-4th debate, but this line is so true. I remember when 3rd was being sold one of the talking point was "What is you wanted an orc that could was the size of an ogre. You would have to design a who different monster, 'Giant orc'. Now we have rules that work the same on all monsters. Once you have the rules down, increasing the orc to ogre size is the same as increasing the size of a wasp to a giant wasp. One system for everything, it will be so much simpler." I was all excited. Now I hear. "If you want to increase the size of an orc, you have to follow compliacated rules on increasing strength, and hitdice, and figuring out CR that never works. In 4th, simply make a large orc and name it "Giant orc" it will be so much simpler." This is why I have yet to be impressed with anything I hear. [/QUOTE]

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