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<blockquote data-quote="Lizard" data-source="post: 4026174" data-attributes="member: 1054">Just to clarify, I don't think the video was mocking players of older versions; I think it was emblematic of the marketing decision to portray older versions as fatally flawed, promise us 4e fixes &quot;everything&quot;, and then not actually telling us HOW. (Note that the 4e game isn't shown; none of the solutions to the 'problems' of older versions are presented, and I *still* want to know how 4e is going to magically keep me from having the &quot;wrong&quot; miniatures at my table...)8 years from now, there WILL be a 4e segment in that video, leading to 5e. No one -- especially not the designers, who are neither incompetent nor stupid -- believes a product as complex as an RPG can be &quot;bug free&quot;. So stop telling us it will be. We aren't believing it, you (WOTC marketing) know it's not true, and it makes you look like lairs who think we're idiots. Can we have honest hype, instead?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Lizard, post: 4026174, member: 1054"] Just to clarify, I don't think the video was mocking players of older versions; I think it was emblematic of the marketing decision to portray older versions as fatally flawed, promise us 4e fixes "everything", and then not actually telling us HOW. (Note that the 4e game isn't shown; none of the solutions to the 'problems' of older versions are presented, and I *still* want to know how 4e is going to magically keep me from having the "wrong" miniatures at my table...) 8 years from now, there WILL be a 4e segment in that video, leading to 5e. No one -- especially not the designers, who are neither incompetent nor stupid -- believes a product as complex as an RPG can be "bug free". So stop telling us it will be. We aren't believing it, you (WOTC marketing) know it's not true, and it makes you look like lairs who think we're idiots. Can we have honest hype, instead? [/QUOTE]

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