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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Snoweel" data-source="post: 634067" data-attributes="member: 4453">Re: Your problem is with CR, not HDNope. It's with Hit Dice.Particularly, as Numion points out, the high HD of human-sized creatures such as Illithids and Yuan-ti purebloods and halfbloods.I mean, the standard adult Illithid has 8HD, whereas a PHB-race adult would have to adventure pretty extensively to reach such a lofty level. I put it to you that an 8th-level human/dwarf/halfling/gnome/etc would be considered an exceptional member of the race. An 8HD Mind-flayer is run-of-the-mill as far as Illithids go.And on top of this, Hit Dice give bonuses to saves (particularly reflex saves, which doesn't make sense) and BAB, as well as providing Feats and in some cases, skill points.The only increase I believe is truly justified with a size (and therefore HD) increase is that of more hit points.How does being bigger make you a better combatant (especially with missile weapons) - the rules even state that Large and bigger sized creatures' attack rolls suffer a penalty based on size, but what's the point - their BAB bonus due to Hit Dice more than off-sets this penalty.Add to that the fact that big creatures already have substantial Strength bonuses to their melee attacks, and HD-based attack bonuses seem ludicrously redundant.Though not as ludicrous as the 8HD Illithid who did nothing but grow potatoes his whole life.</blockquote>