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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Alzrius" data-source="post: 735424" data-attributes="member: 8461">Okay, so, I finally managed to get a copy of Savage Species from a game shop in Shinjuku, and was reading it this morning.Now, from what I read in, iirc, chapter 11, there are three ways a template can affect hit dice.Type A doesn't change the base creature's hit dice in any way, shape, or form (i.e. Celestial).Type B only alters a base creature's natural hit dice, not any gained from any sort of class levels (i.e. Half-Dragon).Type C alters all of the base creature's hit dice, natural, class, or whatever, and further hit dice gained later are also changed by this template (i.e. Lich).Now, given that every template example it lists for type C (again iirc) was undead, does that mean that undead always use d12 for hit dice, regardless of anything else? Would a ghoul (a non-template undead in this case) with cleric levels gain d12's for those cleric levels?</blockquote>