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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Kobold Stew" data-source="post: 2277724" data-attributes="member: 23484">Thanks, all, for this. It largely confirms what I have suspected, that (in terms of what I'm looking for) it doesn't exist. Nail, thanks for checking the other books for me. Hyp, thanks for the anthropomorphs in SS--I knew about them (from another of your posts, actually!), but it doesn't give sufficient precedent for what I want.   The SRD says "Monsters suitable for play have a level adjustment given in their statistics. Add a monster’s level adjustment to its Hit Dice and class levels to get the creature’s effective character level, or ECL. Effectively, monsters with a level adjustment become multiclass character when they take class levels. " The first two sentences can be read to imply that there NEEDS to be an LA with hit dice. the third might suggest that there are some without a level adjustment. I'm not sure that LA +0 counts as an LA for the purposes of the first two sentences (following Jester's distinction).  Since they've not made a playable race w/ 2dice but LA + 0, I'd conclude that this is the way the SRD is meant to be read, that the LA (of at least +1) is (seen by the designers to be) a necessary feature of hit dice in 3.5.(Here's some races exempli gratia to show what I mean; obviously the table could be filled out):ECL 1 Human (LA+0 with a class level)ECL 2 Hobgoblin (LA +1 with a class level).ECL 3 Drow (LA+2 with a class level).          but no race with 2HD + 0LA + a class level ECL 4 Svirfneblin (LA+3 with class level)          or Lizard Folk with a class level (2HD+1LA+class level)More thought is needed. Again, though, thanks to all for helping me with this.KS.</blockquote>

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