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<blockquote data-quote="DND_Reborn" data-source="post: 8103621" data-attributes="member: 6987520">Okay, but considering your OP I thought the point was more that CON shouldn't be the only factor.I understand the argument about it not being the only factor because as most people know CON ends up being your 2nd or 3rd best score more often than not due to the desire for high HP. However, since part of the abstract nature of HP does include the ability to take the pain, endurance, or whatever--which CON represents IMO--it should continue to be a contributing factor at least. With my proposal about using all the scores at level 1, CON is not a &quot;major factor&quot; really, it is just as important over all as all the other ability scores towards contributing to HP.FWIW, there is enough differentiation between STR and CON to my mind that I oppose the idea of merging them as some people suggest, so I would keep CON as its own thing. shrug</blockquote>

[QUOTE="DND_Reborn, post: 8103621, member: 6987520"] Okay, but considering your OP I thought the point was more that CON shouldn't be the [I]only[/I] factor. I understand the argument about it not being the only factor because as most people know CON ends up being your 2nd or 3rd best score more often than not due to the desire for high HP. However, since part of the abstract nature of HP [I]does[/I] include the ability to take the pain, endurance, or whatever--which CON represents IMO--it should continue to be a contributing factor at least. With my proposal about using all the scores at level 1, CON is not a "major factor" really, it is just as important over all as all the other ability scores towards contributing to HP. FWIW, there is enough differentiation between STR and CON to my mind that I oppose the idea of merging them as some people suggest, so I would keep CON as its own thing. [I]shrug[/I] [/QUOTE]

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