Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
White Dwarf Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Nest
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
EN Publishing
Twitter
BlueSky
Facebook
Instagram
EN World
BlueSky
YouTube
Facebook
Twitter
Twitch
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Upgrade your account to a Community Supporter account and remove most of the site ads.
Rocket your D&D 5E and Level Up: Advanced 5E games into space! Alpha Star Magazine Is Launching... Right Now!
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*TTRPGs General
Hit point / damage gap in AD&D vs 3e
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="Treebore" data-source="post: 2925161" data-attributes="member: 10177"><p>If you look at post 30 on the first page you will see where I said I was/am playing an Epic Arcane caster. Yes, I am aware that like bonuses do not stack, I do know the rules pretty well. I don't have them memorized, but I definitely am solid on the basic below Epic Level stuff.</p><p></p><p>Can anyone tell me where the rules are about overcoming SR and if it is capped at 20th level or not? IE, like Greater Dispelling maxes out at +20.</p><p></p><p>BTW, Power Word Spells absolutely suck at high level. PW: Kill only effects creatures when they are 101 HP or lower. What kind of whimpy doo doo is that? PW: Stun only effects 201 HP! So what spells is a high level caster supposed to use that will effect and kill other high level monsters/NPC's? Not to mention they are effected by SR. Tonight we fought a creature with an SR of 46! When they put together the Epic level handbook they either playtested with the most min/max munchkin characters they could put together or they never playtested at all!</p><p></p><p>I became an Elemetal Savant, Earth, at 15th level and became an Earth Elemental at 25th. I am immune to poison, petrification, crits, etc... Plus I am immune to Acid. Everyone is immune to something because of Prestige Classes or magic items, usually a lot of things. The monsters are even worse. Epic level play needs a lot of work to be able to work, because right now I am finding it to be a lot of nonsense. That these dice limits, and HP limits, and to even allow immunities, all big mistakes if you want a game that remains challenging at high level. High level play shows just how over powered lower level play is. Too god-like way too fast.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Treebore, post: 2925161, member: 10177"] If you look at post 30 on the first page you will see where I said I was/am playing an Epic Arcane caster. Yes, I am aware that like bonuses do not stack, I do know the rules pretty well. I don't have them memorized, but I definitely am solid on the basic below Epic Level stuff. Can anyone tell me where the rules are about overcoming SR and if it is capped at 20th level or not? IE, like Greater Dispelling maxes out at +20. BTW, Power Word Spells absolutely suck at high level. PW: Kill only effects creatures when they are 101 HP or lower. What kind of whimpy doo doo is that? PW: Stun only effects 201 HP! So what spells is a high level caster supposed to use that will effect and kill other high level monsters/NPC's? Not to mention they are effected by SR. Tonight we fought a creature with an SR of 46! When they put together the Epic level handbook they either playtested with the most min/max munchkin characters they could put together or they never playtested at all! I became an Elemetal Savant, Earth, at 15th level and became an Earth Elemental at 25th. I am immune to poison, petrification, crits, etc... Plus I am immune to Acid. Everyone is immune to something because of Prestige Classes or magic items, usually a lot of things. The monsters are even worse. Epic level play needs a lot of work to be able to work, because right now I am finding it to be a lot of nonsense. That these dice limits, and HP limits, and to even allow immunities, all big mistakes if you want a game that remains challenging at high level. High level play shows just how over powered lower level play is. Too god-like way too fast. [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*TTRPGs General
Hit point / damage gap in AD&D vs 3e
Top