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Message: <blockquote data-quote="ravenheart" data-source="post: 5480288" data-attributes="member: 72088">Why not make it the default for coup de grace then? I've been aching to remove helpless as a condition as it serves such a limited function. Come to think of it, helpless also grants combat advantage, and that got me thinking - what if you only needed combat advantage for a coup de grace? Hear me out.First, this would appear to radically increase the amount of coup de grace's made, so some alterations to that mechanic is needed. A coup de grace is technically a called shot or well-placed strike, which could warrant an attack penalty for landing, so what about a -2 penalty to the attack roll? Hell, you could allow a ranged coup de grace at an increased penalty to compensate for easily avoiding opportunity attacks (-5 perhaps).Second, auto-critting when you are flanking seems abusable, so what if it would simply deal double damage on a hit (keeping the 'slaying the target outright' mechanism). Makes it more usable for monsters as well. I do like the idea of a save though, maybe reducing the target to 1 hp on a save (becoming minions, effectively)? And giving the PCs a slim chance of recovery even if they fail (reducing them to negative healing surge value instead of bloodied).Finally, such intent focus on a single target means taking your eyes of your other adversaries, so it would provoke opportunity attacks from adjacent enemies.Here's a formatted version of my idea:Summing up: By making coup de grace a more available, albeit risky, option it makes fights more deadly and gives characters, especially strikers (and prominently rogues), the ability to possibly take out standard enemies in a single turn. This is of course, equally available to monsters so PC's shouldn't be overpowered in comparison.Is this feasible? Or just fiddly?</blockquote>

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