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<blockquote data-quote="kibbitz" data-source="post: 4627737" data-attributes="member: 3723">It's really about the healing surges, isn't it? Healing surges seem to be viewed as unrealistic internalized personal healing by people who despise it. The abstract strained muscles bit seems to point to this. Damage inconsistencies of this sort though, haven't they been in D&amp;D since... D&amp;D?Asphyxiation, I believe, did HP damage too. So your Wizard with 40 HP, down to 1 HP purely from asphyxiation (just assume he resisted all the fire damage and avoided being clipped by falling rubble/stuff) after escaping a burning building. He gets poked with dagger for 2 damage, now lies dying. Don't see how this is different from the 'winded-&gt;dying scenario'.Though this gets me wondering... would people only who hate the 4e healing surge because of the &quot;abstract strained muscles vs physical damage&quot; bit be okay if the surges only restored temporary HP unless the surge is enhanced magically by a Cleric or other appropriate class?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="kibbitz, post: 4627737, member: 3723"] It's really about the healing surges, isn't it? Healing surges seem to be viewed as unrealistic internalized personal healing by people who despise it. The abstract strained muscles bit seems to point to this. Damage inconsistencies of this sort though, haven't they been in D&D since... D&D? Asphyxiation, I believe, did HP damage too. So your Wizard with 40 HP, down to 1 HP purely from asphyxiation (just assume he resisted all the fire damage and avoided being clipped by falling rubble/stuff) after escaping a burning building. He gets poked with dagger for 2 damage, now lies dying. Don't see how this is different from the 'winded->dying scenario'. Though this gets me wondering... would people only who hate the 4e healing surge because of the "abstract strained muscles vs physical damage" bit be okay if the surges only restored temporary HP unless the surge is enhanced magically by a Cleric or other appropriate class? [/QUOTE]

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