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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Raven Crowking" data-source="post: 4634540" data-attributes="member: 18280">Meh.  Consider me attritted.If I (and others) failed to convince a significant proportion of the posters in the SW thread, well, there are still folks who believe that the world is flat, or that the moon landing didn't happen.  Someone refusing to accept an argument is no evidence that the argument is flawed.  Indeed, my parsing out the options in the SW thread was awesome.It was so awesome that, from the podcast, I get the pretty strong impression that WotC agrees with my parsing, even if some folks here do not.The best things about the SW thread were (1) that firesnakeries managed to add an option that I had missed in my initial parsing, and (2) that enough people understood well enough to offer some very helpful mods to the system.  And that was even more awesome than the parsing of the RAW options.  IMHO, at least.Anyway, if there are folks here who still want to argue what you (clearly) can and cannot do in the 4e system, I wish you the best of luck with your positions.  As I said upthread, I have no interest in Cut & Pasting the arguments from that thread to this.  It has been done to death.From where I'm sitting, it seems like discussing the health merits of tobacco with smoking lobbyists.  <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/laugh.png"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing    :lol:" data-shortname=":lol:" />RC</blockquote>

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