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<blockquote data-quote="Neonchameleon" data-source="post: 5923458" data-attributes="member: 87792"><p>If hit points amongst other things represent fatigue and stamina (as The Little Raven has already shown) then the constitution is also at least part stamina. So no he isn't. He just says that "a certain amount of these hit points" and doesn't quantify.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Rebolding mine. When a long distance runner undertakes a serious distance race they are advised to rest for<em> <a href="http://www.ehow.com/how_4788116_recover-after-running-half-marathon.html" target="_blank">one day per mile of race</a></em>. It takes a lot of rest to restore stamina properly.</p><p></p><p>In the rare cases where damage is actually more than scratches (contrary to the DMG as quoted) resting does give the body a chance to heal - but this is only one case. Given the sheer endurance required for long term fighting, recovery of stamina up to full strength is not trivial. </p><p></p><p><em></em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em>You think exhaustion isn't physical punishment???</em></p><p><em></em></p><p></p><p>And the point about constitution bonusses does indicate that tougher characters can withstand more damage. This doesn't mean that the entire constitution bonus is of necessity physical damage.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endurance" target="_blank">Endurance</a> reflects stamina at least as much as durability. You aren't helping your cause.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>And when most of them appear to be based on misunderstandings and blowing individual words out of a list into huge cases as opposed to the plain meaning of an unambiguous paragraph, your cherry picking won't help you much. Your only even remotely clear point is that constitution bonusses indicate that tougher characters can withstand more damage. Of course they can.</p><p></p><p>Your self-admitted cherry picking just gives you things that are normally contradicted and certainly mitigated by the rest of the text you are quoting. My paragraph (or rather The Little Raven's paragraph) is clear and unambiguous.</p><p></p><p>And [MENTION=33904]Gold Roger[/MENTION], to emphasise something I said earlier in the thread, I hope that they will deliberately point out the length of rest as a dial you can control as DM. Instant overnight recovery of hit points leads to a Michael Bay type action movie. But then so does instant overnight recovery of spells - Gandalf cast maybe six spells in the whole of Lord of the Rings. Extend it to a week and it doesn't turn into Michael Bay on either count.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Neonchameleon, post: 5923458, member: 87792"] If hit points amongst other things represent fatigue and stamina (as The Little Raven has already shown) then the constitution is also at least part stamina. So no he isn't. He just says that "a certain amount of these hit points" and doesn't quantify. [I][/I] Rebolding mine. When a long distance runner undertakes a serious distance race they are advised to rest for[I] [URL="http://www.ehow.com/how_4788116_recover-after-running-half-marathon.html"]one day per mile of race[/URL][/I]. It takes a lot of rest to restore stamina properly. In the rare cases where damage is actually more than scratches (contrary to the DMG as quoted) resting does give the body a chance to heal - but this is only one case. Given the sheer endurance required for long term fighting, recovery of stamina up to full strength is not trivial. [I] You think exhaustion isn't physical punishment??? [/I] And the point about constitution bonusses does indicate that tougher characters can withstand more damage. This doesn't mean that the entire constitution bonus is of necessity physical damage. [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endurance"]Endurance[/URL] reflects stamina at least as much as durability. You aren't helping your cause. And when most of them appear to be based on misunderstandings and blowing individual words out of a list into huge cases as opposed to the plain meaning of an unambiguous paragraph, your cherry picking won't help you much. Your only even remotely clear point is that constitution bonusses indicate that tougher characters can withstand more damage. Of course they can. Your self-admitted cherry picking just gives you things that are normally contradicted and certainly mitigated by the rest of the text you are quoting. My paragraph (or rather The Little Raven's paragraph) is clear and unambiguous. And [MENTION=33904]Gold Roger[/MENTION], to emphasise something I said earlier in the thread, I hope that they will deliberately point out the length of rest as a dial you can control as DM. Instant overnight recovery of hit points leads to a Michael Bay type action movie. But then so does instant overnight recovery of spells - Gandalf cast maybe six spells in the whole of Lord of the Rings. Extend it to a week and it doesn't turn into Michael Bay on either count. [/QUOTE]
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