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<blockquote data-quote="Morrus" data-source="post: 4545652" data-attributes="member: 1">CON isn't a good figure to use because it doesn't track with level in the same way that &quot;-10&quot; became irrelevant at higher levels in 3E. Damage is so high at higher levels that the chances of being between o and -10 in 3E were pretty small: in reality, you'd be at psotove hi topins (alive and well) or -80 (well and truly dead).&nbsp;4E solves this by tracking unconsciousness to level by way of making it your bloodiied score (or half hit points).&nbsp;The reason you need a negative damage score to track with the same damage as level-appropriate monsters do in a round is that, if you don't, the negative damage score is irrelevant. Might as well not have it. &nbsp;So - the idea is good, but link it to level or hit points, not to CON. It seems realistic (heck, it is more realistic), but it doesn't make for more fun for your players. Unless you like half your players sitting round twiddling their thumbs all evening, with their unconscious or dead characters, watching other people enjoy themselves, and wondering if they'd be better off just going to the pub next week. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />&nbsp;It's all about the fun. Fun trumps realism. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="Morrus, post: 4545652, member: 1"] CON isn't a good figure to use because it doesn't track with level in the same way that "-10" became irrelevant at higher levels in 3E. Damage is so high at higher levels that the chances of being between o and -10 in 3E were pretty small: in reality, you'd be at psotove hi topins (alive and well) or -80 (well and truly dead). 4E solves this by tracking unconsciousness to level by way of making it your bloodiied score (or half hit points). The reason you need a negative damage score to track with the same damage as level-appropriate monsters do in a round is that, if you don't, the negative damage score is irrelevant. Might as well not have it. So - the idea is good, but link it to level or hit points, not to CON. It seems realistic (heck, it [I]is[/I] more realistic), but it doesn't make for more fun for your players. Unless you[I] like [/I]half your players sitting round twiddling their thumbs all evening, with their unconscious or dead characters, watching [I]other[/I] people enjoy themselves, and wondering if they'd be better off just going to the pub next week. :) It's all about the fun. Fun trumps realism. :) [/QUOTE]

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