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<blockquote data-quote="Lanefan" data-source="post: 3982884" data-attributes="member: 29398">OK, right there I see a disconnect.&nbsp; For me, the game *as a whole* is the source of fun; my character(s) are just part of it. That just tells me the rest of the game can't be much good, if there's no other fun to be found in it. The game as a whole is - and should be...nay, *must* be - bigger than any one character.&nbsp; If my character(s) die(s), I can still be entertained by the antics of the survivors, or the story's progress.&nbsp; The other players will merely be deprived of any entertainment my character(s) might have provided...and sometimes, this might be a Good Thing. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />All editions kill PCs; 3e is not solely to blame here.&nbsp; That said, if someone in my game looked like they were going to get this attached to a character my response as DM would be to want to kill it sooner rather than later, to remind them a) it is only a game, and b) there's also fun to be had in trying different concepts.I have no problem with resurrection magic etc., provided the 1e chance of failure is still there.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Lanefan, post: 3982884, member: 29398"] OK, right there I see a disconnect. For me, the game *as a whole* is the source of fun; my character(s) are just part of it. That just tells me the rest of the game can't be much good, if there's no other fun to be found in it. The game as a whole is - and should be...nay, *must* be - bigger than any one character. If my character(s) die(s), I can still be entertained by the antics of the survivors, or the story's progress. The other players will merely be deprived of any entertainment my character(s) might have provided...and sometimes, this might be a Good Thing. :)All editions kill PCs; 3e is not solely to blame here. That said, if someone in my game looked like they were going to get this attached to a character my response as DM would be to want to kill it sooner rather than later, to remind them a) it is only a game, and b) there's also fun to be had in trying different concepts. I have no problem with resurrection magic etc., provided the 1e chance of failure is still there. [/QUOTE]

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