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<blockquote data-quote="Flamestrike" data-source="post: 8133154" data-attributes="member: 6788736"><p>Does the Queen have any say in her behaviour? Can she choose to avoid murder, eating people and so forth?</p><p></p><p>Compare Devils (who are evil) or Angels (good) on account of not just being made up of the stuff of the Nine Hells or Celestia, but also down to them choosing to go along with that evil or good (as hard as the choice may be for them to change alignment, and do good or evil in opposition to their inherent nature, it is possible).</p><p></p><p>Zombies or mindless undead would ordinarily be unaligned (for example the Walkers in TWD), however in DnD they are possessed by an evil hateful spirit which makes them evil. Even if the Zombie is mindless, the Spirit chooses to do evil deeds channelled through the actions of the Zombie.</p><p></p><p>Contrast with an unaligned Golem (a robot). It can be ordered to commit all sorts of atrocities, but that makes the free willed Master evil, not the Golem.</p><p></p><p>The question comes down to a question of free will and sentient choice. If a creature cannot choose to do anything differently, it is generally unaligned (although exceptions exist).</p><p></p><p>An example of the difficulties with Hive minds or created entities is the Xenomorph from Aliens. Is it unaligned or NE? On one hand it's a created biological weapon that has no say in its actions, and is incapable of mercy, compassion or kindness. On the flip side It is more than just a mindless drone; it doesn't just kill for food and reproduction, it also kills indiscriminately and deliberately creates terror.</p><p></p><p>For mine, I classify the Xenomorph as unaligned, like any other animal. I dont see them going to the Fuge plane on death and being judged by Kelemvor and send to Hades for example. They're unaligned biological constructs, built for genocide.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Flamestrike, post: 8133154, member: 6788736"] Does the Queen have any say in her behaviour? Can she choose to avoid murder, eating people and so forth? Compare Devils (who are evil) or Angels (good) on account of not just being made up of the stuff of the Nine Hells or Celestia, but also down to them choosing to go along with that evil or good (as hard as the choice may be for them to change alignment, and do good or evil in opposition to their inherent nature, it is possible). Zombies or mindless undead would ordinarily be unaligned (for example the Walkers in TWD), however in DnD they are possessed by an evil hateful spirit which makes them evil. Even if the Zombie is mindless, the Spirit chooses to do evil deeds channelled through the actions of the Zombie. Contrast with an unaligned Golem (a robot). It can be ordered to commit all sorts of atrocities, but that makes the free willed Master evil, not the Golem. The question comes down to a question of free will and sentient choice. If a creature cannot choose to do anything differently, it is generally unaligned (although exceptions exist). An example of the difficulties with Hive minds or created entities is the Xenomorph from Aliens. Is it unaligned or NE? On one hand it's a created biological weapon that has no say in its actions, and is incapable of mercy, compassion or kindness. On the flip side It is more than just a mindless drone; it doesn't just kill for food and reproduction, it also kills indiscriminately and deliberately creates terror. For mine, I classify the Xenomorph as unaligned, like any other animal. I dont see them going to the Fuge plane on death and being judged by Kelemvor and send to Hades for example. They're unaligned biological constructs, built for genocide. [/QUOTE]
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