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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Astrosicebear" data-source="post: 6376105" data-attributes="member: 67017">First, a big shout out to bryce0lynch, his review sparked a collaborative effort rarely seen these days.  So many want this to be good, instead of just lambasting it as a horrible product.  It seems there are some redeeming qualities to the book, which I agree with.  But I also agree with his critiques completely.There are great people doing some awesome work (as posted on enworld.org's main page)  on how to properly fix/run this book.  And therein lies the true issue.  This isnt a DM's sandbox kit... or a product meant for experienced DMs, or as Bryce put it, a 2E style kit.  This is a product that at its core is nothing more than a compilation of the D&D Encounters, and thats my biggest gripe.I bought a product I thought was intended as the premier 5th Edition Adventure Path... what I got was a product that didnt know what it wanted to be, and ended up being a series of free-to-play episodes (with free-to-play level of detail and time put in) jammed into a pretty hardcover.I'll run it, with alot of the changes and fixes that the great internets have devised, and with a hand that a seasoned DM can bring to the table... but thats just so my players wont walk away from the table disgusted with 5E.TL;DR if there was a competing product I'd chose that one.  If you are brand new to 5E and your players are too...get the Starter Set (use the PHB for a much more robust experience) and run Lost Mines of Phandelvar... its a far superior experience.</blockquote>

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