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<blockquote data-quote="FalcWP" data-source="post: 4094291" data-attributes="member: 16858">All depends on the camp.Are the hobgoblins a group of sentries outside the hobgoblin village?&nbsp; A raiding force?&nbsp; An invasion force?&nbsp; Women and children and old men who are staying behind?Are they prepared for the attack?&nbsp; Do they have scouts and sentries making patrols?&nbsp; Or are they going to be caught completely by surprise?Are there experienced warriors in the camp?&nbsp; Have they seen a lot of battle, and was it recent?&nbsp; Or are they all new recruits?&nbsp; How many hobgoblins are in this camp?&nbsp; A dozen?&nbsp; A hundred?How about terrain?&nbsp; Have the hobgoblins fortified their position, or is it a mostly open camp.&nbsp; What time are the characters attacking?&nbsp; The hobgoblins have darkvision, not all of the PCs do.It can be as easy or as difficult as you want to make it.&nbsp; If they launch an ambush and are fighting generic hobgoblins, the PCs might be able to handle dozens - a regular hobgoblin has one hit die, after all, and will fall in droves against 7th level PCs.&nbsp; If the hobgoblins are experienced or prepared, or both, its an entirely different story.As for a comparison with regular goblins... hobgoblins are bigger and stronger, yes.&nbsp; But the stock hobgoblins aren't a significantly greater threat.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="FalcWP, post: 4094291, member: 16858"] All depends on the camp. Are the hobgoblins a group of sentries outside the hobgoblin village? A raiding force? An invasion force? Women and children and old men who are staying behind? Are they prepared for the attack? Do they have scouts and sentries making patrols? Or are they going to be caught completely by surprise? Are there experienced warriors in the camp? Have they seen a lot of battle, and was it recent? Or are they all new recruits? How many hobgoblins are in this camp? A dozen? A hundred? How about terrain? Have the hobgoblins fortified their position, or is it a mostly open camp. What time are the characters attacking? The hobgoblins have darkvision, not all of the PCs do. It can be as easy or as difficult as you want to make it. If they launch an ambush and are fighting generic hobgoblins, the PCs might be able to handle dozens - a regular hobgoblin has one hit die, after all, and will fall in droves against 7th level PCs. If the hobgoblins are experienced or prepared, or both, its an entirely different story. As for a comparison with regular goblins... hobgoblins are bigger and stronger, yes. But the stock hobgoblins aren't a significantly greater threat. [/QUOTE]

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